Members tech21man Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 the 5150 and xxx are great in the fact they both cover similar ground and both are aggression perfected. But the 5150 is the raw side and the ultra series has more refined sound but still being brutal. Sometimes when playing my xxx its really amazing at how smooth and clear it can sound will still dishing out a very pleasing saturated gain. If that doesn't fit your tastes, then I can see someone disliking these amps. Otherwise the ultra series sits very near the top, imo. And when you factor in the price and reliability I'll never understand the PV hate. Agree 100%. I am a big mesa mark fanboy but with the XXX set on tight and good tweaking I had the qualities I liked about the mark (not the same sound but what I loved about it, tight, precise etc) with some XXXtra sauce for example. And damn that crunch channel. Honestly, it is not that many high end amps are better or worse or something but for my taste what the XXX gives, it is its own game. I tried many that I didn't like and cost more but I'd pay more for the XXX if need be. Good thing they are dirt cheap used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 They should make a Peavey Ultra series amp with 2 crunch channels. JSX clean, Ultra+ crunch, and the XXX crunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SexWithRobots Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Give me some settings you guys use for your Jsx red and amber channel. I have a hard time getting the low gain crunch sound I'm looking for on the amber channel. Like an overdriven clean sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Give me some settings you guys use for your Jsx red and amber channel. I have a hard time getting the low gain crunch sound I'm looking for on the amber channel. Like an overdriven clean sound. Keep the gain at around 1-2 and keep all the EQ knobs below 5. Or boost it and use the clean channel. That's what I do. I hate pristine cleans, so a boost in front dirties it up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SexWithRobots Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Keep the gain at around 1-2 and keep all the EQ knobs below 5. Or boost it and use the clean channel. That's what I do. I hate pristine cleans, so a boost in front dirties it up for me Yeah me too the clean channel is too clean. I think I need a pedal for a boost cause the crunch channel sounds weak when I have it set like that. Also the din cable channel switcher is annoying cause I'd like to get a loop master pedal and set it up so when I switch to the clean channel it would have a district pedal on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 I just had a look at the EQ for this and it is pretty wacky! I need to have a good think about how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Also play with the volume knob on your guitar. Between low gaining the preamp and reducing the input from your guitar you should get it. I still recommend the boost however. Makes the gain channels stand out and makes the clean channels sparkle and dirty up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SexWithRobots Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 What boost are you using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Bodenhamer Bloody Murder. My second favorite is the Coffin Blood Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Keep the gain at around 1-2 and keep all the EQ knobs below 5. Or boost it and use the clean channel. That's what I do. I hate pristine cleans, so a boost in front dirties it up for me Yeah they {censored}ing should and perhaps add the ability to at last mix different power tubes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 25, 2011 Members Share Posted November 25, 2011 Yeah they {censored}ing should and perhaps add the ability to at last mix different power tubes!!! I'd go for spacing the tube sockets far enough apart and allowing for all tube types. KT90s in my JSX is Hellish So what do we name the Peavey Ultra enthusiasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buddhapaugh Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Great amps indeed! I have an Ultra Plus for sale with footswitch in case anyone knows someone looking. Have had the Ultra 120 (my favourite of all the Ultra/XXX/VTM/Triumph amps) as well. Can't go wrong with any of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eudaimonia02912 Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Great amps indeed! I have an Ultra Plus for sale with footswitch in case anyone knows someone looking. Have had the Ultra 120 (my favourite of all the Ultra/XXX/VTM/Triumph amps) as well. Can't go wrong with any of them! How much for the Ultra Plus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toshiro Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 I like my 3120 a lot. I do wish it had 2 of the crunch channel, the ultra I haven't found a good use for.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Toshiro have you gig with it? Though I find it the ultra a bit thin compared to the crunch sometimes it fit the mix better. Crunch for the win though! I'd say that (without knowing the full schematic) if the ultra is based on an addition of one gain stage more and different tonestack values I'd prefer to have it on the amp as the third channel but to be changed back to crunch if I wanted, so clean, crunch, crunch/ultra via switch on the panel. There is a killer high gain clip (I think nkwright is the user or something like this) on this forum and it is peavey XXX. I'd swear it was crunch boosted or whatever but it was the ultra channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 You can actually mod the JSX/XXX to have 2 crunch channels. There isn't a lot separating the designs from what I understand. Honestly even though the Ultra channel thinner, it's nice to have around as it's low mid focused and it helps with helping the amp sit in the mix. If the Crunch channel doesn't sit well with another amp, the Ultra channel will and vice versa. Ultra channel should be thicker though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSutter Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 That first vid is my old setup, with VTM playing. I was expecting great things from the Double Cross but all I ever hear is thin horrid nonsense from those amps. VTM had one for a short time. We couldn't quite jive with it. It is not thin. Its pretty bright though. It sounds like a dump truck, 5150 style. It almost has a Peavey sound to it, but the tone stack is strange. They interact with each other but I don't think they are active. The 2 lead channels are voiced very differently, one is more scooped metal. The other is more rock. Too bad it was over the top aggressive on either. In a mix you'd be hard pressed to tell a difference between all the little switches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mamberg Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 So what do we name the Peavey Ultra enthusiasts? Ultra Xmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Ultra Xmen I was thinking the Ultra Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goop Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 So what do we name the Peavey Ultra enthusiasts? I guess the jet setters is already taken. Shewt!! How about The $2500 Vans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rawk100 Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 I played a 3120 yesterday and loved it, really thick with loads of bottom end grunt! Channel one has great cleans, two and three have awesome distortion which doesn't seem as fizzy as a 6505. My only criticism is that the second channel doesnt seem to do a light overdrive, its pretty full-on even with the gain down which means its not that versatile. I'm looking at the JSX now... can anyone tell me why some seem to have one input whilst others have two (high and low)??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buddhapaugh Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 How much for the Ultra Plus? I'd like to get $400 out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 I played a 3120 yesterday and loved it, really thick with loads of bottom end grunt! Channel one has great cleans, two and three have awesome distortion which doesn't seem as fizzy as a 6505. My only criticism is that the second channel doesnt seem to do a light overdrive, its pretty full-on even with the gain down which means its not that versatile.I'm looking at the JSX now... can anyone tell me why some seem to have one input whilst others have two (high and low)??? First model had one input..I don't even think it got to distribution before the second inputs were added..however in the promo pics you'll occasionally see the single input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toshiro Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Toshiro have you gig with it? Though I find it the ultra a bit thin compared to the crunch sometimes it fit the mix better. Crunch for the win though! I'd say that (without knowing the full schematic) if the ultra is based on an addition of one gain stage more and different tonestack values I'd prefer to have it on the amp as the third channel but to be changed back to crunch if I wanted, so clean, crunch, crunch/ultra via switch on the panel. There is a killer high gain clip (I think nkwright is the user or something like this) on this forum and it is peavey XXX. I'd swear it was crunch boosted or whatever but it was the ultra channel! Nope, don't gig atm. I was using the crunch for rhythm tones, and the the ultra for leads, but the crunch boosted sounded better for soloing. Right now I have the ultra dialed in for an alternate rhythm tone. Sometimes I feel like the amp is wasted on me, because I only use the one channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrakkarTyrannis Posted November 26, 2011 Members Share Posted November 26, 2011 Nope, don't gig atm. I was using the crunch for rhythm tones, and the the ultra for leads, but the crunch boosted sounded better for soloing. Right now I have the ultra dialed in for an alternate rhythm tone. Sometimes I feel like the amp is wasted on me, because I only use the one channel. Honestly I never used to use the Ultra channel on my JSX. I still don't usually. The crunch channels of the Ultra series are what the line is known for. I just recently dialed the Ultra channel in as a secondary rhythm. It sort of mimicks the Crunch channel but isn't as thick and it a little more aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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