Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Fellers, if an amp had a MIDI input for channel switching purposes, but no fancy displays on the front panel, what would be the preferred method for setting the MIDI channel? Is a little dipswitch on the rear next to the jack acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Guessing it isn't a Marshall. Perhaps if you told us what it was, someone here could help you out. No Manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 default it to channel 1 no switches needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 default it to channel 1 no switches needed. For reals? That's one option the engineer suggested, but I didn't guess that would be acceptable. I'd like to go that way if it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 default it to channel 1 no switches needed. After owning a 6100 and a JVM, that sounds downright stone-age. Too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 For reals? That's one option the engineer suggested, but I didn't guess that would be acceptable. I'd like to go that way if it's ok. I cant think of any reason something simple like that would need to recieve on multiple midi channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 For reals? That's one option the engineer suggested, but I didn't guess that would be acceptable. I'd like to go that way if it's ok. Yes sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Guessing it isn't a Marshall.Perhaps if you told us what it was, someone here could help you out.No Manual? Have a look at his sig and guess what company he works for /co owns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Guessing it isn't a Marshall.Perhaps if you told us what it was, someone here could help you out.No Manual? Thanks brother, it's actually a new product I am working on, and I'm thinking MIDI channel switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isvoid Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 +1 for channel 1 default + dip switches are nice imo because (1) hardware based / ez to see at a glance (2) not affected by voltage / connection snafus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Not familiar too with them. Now I feel dumb....Default is pretty standard I think. Long time since I had to program a rig up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Not familiar too with them. Now I feel dumb....Default is pretty standard I think. Long time since I had to program a rig up. don't feel dumb, you were trying to help me, I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 +1 for channel 1 default + dip switches are nice imo because (1) hardware based / ez to see at a glance (2) not affected by voltage / connection snafus. Punky are you saying it would be okay with ONLY channel 1 default and NO dippy switchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isvoid Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Punky are you saying it would be okay with ONLY channel 1 default and NO dippy switchy? punky? son, I'm 53. I'm saying default to channel 1 if only one channel; if you wanted to make it more flexible go with dip switches for the afore mentioned reasons. PS: Been a programmer longer than most forumites herein have been alive, tho the dip switches in the programming I had done were on PLCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 punky? son, I'm 53. I'm saying default to channel 1 if only one channel; if you wanted to make it more flexible go with dip switches for the afore mentioned reasons hahahaha. ok, thanks. I'm thinking just channel 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 punky? son, I'm 53. I'm saying default to channel 1 if only one channel; if you wanted to make it more flexible go with dip switches for the afore mentioned reasons. PS: Been a programmer longer than most forumites herein have been alive, tho the dip switches in the programming I had done were on PLCs. we're talking MIDI channels not amp channels. Regardless of how many channel the amp will have, it can receive all the program change data on MIDI channel 1. If someone needs to transmit MIDI on multiple channels they can set the racks to do it and leave ch 1 for the amp changes only. But I doubt it, I haven't seen many guitar rigs where more than one MIDI channel is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isvoid Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 we're talking MIDI channels not amp channels. I'm aware. If you were running two of dougies secret amps they both couldn't be channel one AND be controlled from the same midi foot controller AND enjoy discrete control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 we're talking MIDI channels not amp channels. Regardless of how many channel the amp will have, it can receive all the program change data on MIDI channel 1.If someone needs to transmit MIDI on multiple channels they can set the racks to do it and leave ch 1 for the amp changes only. But I doubt it, I haven't seen many guitar rigs where more than one MIDI channel is used. I do. Marshall, G-Major, Whammy 4 are on seperate channels. Amp defaults to Ch.One, Whammy defaults to 16. Ground Control Pro. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 I'm aware. If you were running two of dougies secret amps they both couldn't be channel one AND be controlled from the same midi foot controller AND enjoy discrete control. Truth. Not without an interface of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 I'm aware. If you were running two of dougies secret amps they both couldn't be channel one AND be controlled from the same midi foot controller AND enjoy discrete control. That's not true, you can have as many amps as you want in a single MIDI channel and still control them individually. You just need to program the amps to do different things on each preset change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 I do. Marshall, G-Major, Whammy 4 are on seperate channels. Amp defaults to Ch.One, Whammy defaults to 16. Ground Control Pro. YMMV That's what I am saying, you will assign multiple channels on your rack or controller not on your amp(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks very much, doods. How important is a MIDI thru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isvoid Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 That's not true, you can have as many amps as you want in a single MIDI channel and still control them individually. You just need to program the amps to do different things on each preset change. True, but not efficient, because, if I'm understanding what you're saying, then for any given program change to channel 1 you have to account for both amps (i.e. all the respective bits representing settings on BOTH amps have to be accounted for), whereas if each amp enjoys it's own channel program changes to one amp are done completely independent of the other amp. Is my thinking daft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted April 1, 2012 Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks very much, doods. How important is a MIDI thru? It's handy if you have more then one amp, but not crucial. Amp would probably be last in your chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2012 True, but not efficient, because, if I'm understanding what you're saying, then for any given program change to channel 1 you have to account for both amps (i.e. all the respective bits representing settings on BOTH amps have to be accounted for), whereas if each amp enjoys it's own channel program changes to one amp are done completely independent of the other amp. Is my thinking daft? I'm smelling what you're cooking. It's not likely you would want both amps to change channels together. Then again, there probably aren't SO many players with two MIDI amps in their rig, but hopefully that's a growing number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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