Members Miqueas92 Posted October 11, 2007 Members Share Posted October 11, 2007 So Will,How are you doing with the TL and the F30??How do you connect the TL to the amp?What aspects of the TL have you been able to use or not use with the TL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Cyrier Posted October 11, 2007 Members Share Posted October 11, 2007 Hi Mick,I love my TL. I've been using the Mesa's power stage with the TL going into the loop of the Mesa and placing a dummy plug in the FX send of the amp. However, just yesterday I switched it up a little because I hate to waste my amp's pre. So I plugged the TL into the amp's loop utilizing both the send and return, and I used it strickly for effects with all amp and cab sims off. I've found that when I do the first method, I need to turn the cab sims off for some tones, but it's all a matter of taste really. Either way, I'm still learning and love both elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dann'sTheMan Posted October 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 11, 2007 Originally Posted by Will Cyrier Did you make the backing track yourself or purchase it from somewhere? Hi Will, I have two covers of the tune in my sig. The MIDI one was given to me by a keyboardist friend (I think it was on an old keyboard he owned), and I did the MIDI-to-audio conversion (picking instruments etc.). The other one was sent to me by a friend on this forum (blackstratblues, if you recognise names) after I posted the first cover. It's a proper backing track, played by Robben's band (Roscoe Beck etc.) and was available on Line6's GuitarPort website. Let me know if you'd like me to send it to you (PM me your e-mail address), and I'll try and dig it out. Big smiles, Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilMeow Posted October 13, 2007 Members Share Posted October 13, 2007 Good god! This is a {censored} ton of information!!! I had no idea the F-Series had such a huge/dedicated following!I love my new F-30! I've had it for one day and I'm so {censored}ing impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mpdan Posted October 13, 2007 Members Share Posted October 13, 2007 It's amazing that this thread is 5000+ posts and still related to the original topic. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Cyrier Posted October 13, 2007 Members Share Posted October 13, 2007 Welcome to the brotherhood evilmeow. Where/how did you get the F-30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilMeow Posted October 13, 2007 Members Share Posted October 13, 2007 Originally Posted by Will Cyrier Welcome to the brotherhood evilmeow. Where/how did you get the F-30? Returned the X3 Live I bought last week, found this thing discounted down to $699 new, since it's discontinued now. Bought it with the sweet one year same as cash deal that GC has going on right now. I'll make a recording of the Bach Toccata BWV 565 (From the Toccata and Fugue in d-minor) this week or next, since that's what I'm working on right now. It's always nice to have new clips, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Cyrier Posted October 13, 2007 Members Share Posted October 13, 2007 Pod didn't do it for you eh? I had an XTL once but had to return it to its rightfull owner because it was stolen goods. I ended up getting the Vox TLSE in my avitar. I'm happy with it, but I'm also happy with my Mesa by itself. Tube tone is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pedrozepelim Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Do you guys also find your F's to be fluby in the low end, and lacking of note defenition in the 2nd channel?Just for reference I have a F30 and my 2nd channel settings are:Drive- 1hTreble- 1hMids- 10:30hBass- 9hMaster- 9h (I know, it is suposed to be higher but I'm a bedroom player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hey Hal,Would something like this work in the same way as your mod?http://cgi.ebay.com/TUBE-AMP-VOLUME-...QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarthSquirrel Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 I'm thinking about buying an F50 combo that is used at a music store. I see that it has one external output to its 8ohm speaker. It also has 2 4 ohm jacks. I have a speaker cab 2x12 (8ohm speakers) which is wired in series-parallel so it is 4ohm. Can I unplug the 8ohm output to the mesa speaker and plug the cab into only one of the 4ohm speaker outputs? Or do both of the 4ohm outputs need to be used?Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Page 24 should help you out:http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/F-Series.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pedrozepelim Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Originally Posted by opultaM Hey Hal, Would something like this work in the same way as your mod? http://cgi.ebay.com/TUBE-AMP-VOLUME-...QQcmdZViewItem Isn't that the same as having a volume pedal in the loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarthSquirrel Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ya I got confused when I read the following..."When using two 8 Ohm speakers, connect each of them to the 4 Ohmspeaker jacks that are provided, this will equal a 4 Ohm load which is the proper impedancerequired when using this particular speaker configuration."Not sure if they are meaning wire the 8 ohm speakers in parallel and connect to one of the 4 ohm jacks or if they mean independantly connect each 8 ohm speaker to each of the 4 ohm speaker jacks. Maybe I'm not reading it properly. hahaThanks for the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 It's the latter; Connect one 4ohm jack into one 8ohm speaker, and then the other 4ohm jack to the other 8ohm speaker. The diagrams are helpful and i consult them often, as i know nothing about impedence and that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarthSquirrel Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 Thanks again for the response, the diagrams are awesome.It does look like I can connect my 4ohm speaker cab to one of the 4ohm speaker jacks and leave nothing connected to the 8ohm and the other 4ohm and it is a safe configuration.That would be speaker configuration number 2 in the manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodylong Posted October 15, 2007 Members Share Posted October 15, 2007 I was thinking about putting new tubes in my F-50. I play classic rock some 80's metal country and a lot of blues. The amp it about 1 1/2 years old. so the originals tubes are still in her. If i get some new tubes does she need to be re bias? Thanks also what tube would you recommend and where are you guys buy you tubes local store or on line Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mrmot Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Well guys, I'm extremely proud to say that I now own a F-50 combo!!!! I traded my Gibson LP Studio for it. The amp is MINT, 11 months old and i've still got one month of warranty, came with footswitch, cover, manual It's amazing!!!!!! BEAUTIFUL clean, it sounded great with my LP when i used the bright switch, very responsive, dynamic.. And the lead channel, holy god I simply can't understand how someone can possibly say that it can't do metal, i was riffing like crazy with the gain on 09:00 (o'clock) on the contour mode, amazing tight crunch, of course you got to have nice pickups/axe and a strong hand but don't blame the amp if you can't do it, raising the gain at around 12:00 was pretty enough for me to play leads. I thought that it actually sounded pretty good with the volume set at around "loud tv volume", meaning, i find the master volumes to be really good ... of course, it sounded better when the volume was at 09:00 The only problem is that i currently don't have a guitar So i have to look at two mesa/boogies (other is the Studio.22+) in my room but can't play them EDIT: I don't mean that you guys think it doesn't have enough gain, but on the reviews page a lot of guys said that it doesn't have enough gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hal9000 Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally Posted by pedrozepelim Do you guys also find your F's to be fluby in the low end, and lacking of note defenition in the 2nd channel? Just for reference I have a F30 and my 2nd channel settings are: Drive- 1h Treble- 1h Mids- 10:30h Bass- 9h Master- 9h (I know, it is suposed to be higher but I'm a bedroom player) I don't find my F-100 to be flubby at all. It's not as tight as my Soldano Avenger or former VHT 50CL, but it's plenty tight for thrash IMO. I generally run these settings: Gain - 1:00 Treble - 9:00 Mid - 3:00 Bass - 9:00 Master - 10:30 Loop attenuated with either my G-Major or FX loop master mod. If I use the FX Mix pot to attenuate using the method in my sig, I generally set it for 2:00 and then adjust the front panel to my liking. Guitars can also be the source of loose low end and so can technique. Here are some clips with these settings and various guitars: http://www.64graphics.com/clips/hal9...F-100_20th.mp3 http://www.64graphics.com/clips/What...l9000_Have.mp3 http://www.64graphics.com/clips/hal9...l_Rock_You.mp3 - Boosted with a Germania Treble Booster http://www.64graphics.com/clips/hal9..._Heavy_USB.mp3 http://www.64graphics.com/clips/hal9..._War_F-100.mp3 - Boosted with a Germania Treble Booster http://www.64graphics.com/clips/hal9..._way_F-100.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hal9000 Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally Posted by opultaM Hey Hal, Would something like this work in the same way as your mod? http://cgi.ebay.com/TUBE-AMP-VOLUME-...QQcmdZViewItem It's basically like a volume pedal, but I can't vouch for it's build or quality of parts since I don't know what's inside. If you aren't using the loop, you can the FX Mix pot to do the same thing, but I know that works. Most guitarists have enough cables lying around to at least test the principle of the FX loop master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hal9000 Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally Posted by DarthSquirrel Thanks again for the response, the diagrams are awesome. It does look like I can connect my 4ohm speaker cab to one of the 4ohm speaker jacks and leave nothing connected to the 8ohm and the other 4ohm and it is a safe configuration. That would be speaker configuration number 2 in the manual? You are correct. A single 4 Ohm speaker can go in either 4 Ohm jack. Also: 1) A single 8 Ohm speaker should go in the 8 Ohm jack. 2) Two 8 Ohm speakers should each go into a 4 Ohm jack since 8 in parallel with 8 = 4 Ohms = the total impedance of the jacks. Resistance in parallel = 1/(1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/Rn) or (R1*R2)/(R1+R2) if there are only two speakers. So, 1/(1/8 + 1/8) = 4 = (8*8)/(8+8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hal9000 Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally Posted by Mrmot Well guys, I'm extremely proud to say that I now own a F-50 combo!!!! MrMot, welcome to the F-series Brotherhood! Check out some of the tricks/settings in my sig for my thoughts on the F-series. My F-100 has as much gain as my Soldano Avenger and Mesa Tremoverb, so that's where the discussion ends. People will complain about anything, so take the reviews with a grain of salt. If it makes you feel any better, I've heard people complain that a 5150 doesn't have enough gain and that an AC-30 is too dark. I've even heard people say that the clean on the F-50 is passable at best (and most people know that's bologna). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hal9000 Posted October 16, 2007 Members Share Posted October 16, 2007 Originally Posted by woodylong I was thinking about putting new tubes in my F-50. I play classic rock some 80's metal country and a lot of blues. The amp it about 1 1/2 years old. so the originals tubes are still in her. If i get some new tubes does she need to be re bias? Thanks also what tube would you recommend and where are you guys buy you tubes local store or on line Thanks again You can either buy Mesa tubes (STR-430) for the 6L6s or get them from a reputable dealer that matches tubes for Mesa's power tube bias range. All Mesa's have a non-adjustable power tube bias from the factory, so they need to use tubes that work with Mesa's specified range. I've had good results with Mesa's stock tubes, but I switched over last time around to www.dougstubes.com. Doug is a good guy and outfitted me with an entire set pre and power tubes in Mesa's range for the cost of 4 6L6s from Mesa. Preamp tubes don't have to be biased, so you can use whatever you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted October 17, 2007 Members Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hal, you are THE man! (assuming of course that you are male. If not, sorry! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Will Cyrier Posted October 17, 2007 Members Share Posted October 17, 2007 What should I get--MXR Dynacomp or Supercomp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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