Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Build it yourself...... www.sloclone.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 The SLO circuit can be traced back through the Marshall's to the Fender Bassman and then on to old RCA radio circuits before that. I don't mean original in components and function, I mean original in the application of those components and functions. Until the SLO, nothing sounded like an SLO. my point is that the SLO is just like every amp out there...a variation on a theme. mike didn't design it from the ground up, he made some changes to existing designs. there's a whole new crop of builders that are doing the same thing, only they're starting with the SLO and making changes. what's wrong with that? one of the most "original" designs i've seen is a MKIIC+. it's the greatest departure from teh old fender circuit that i've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Build it yourself...... www.sloclone.com that's a bad link...you might have meant this: http://sloclone.yesterdaysrevolt.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 But the Mark series amps were "based" on the Dumble circuit, weren't they? I've talk to several MAJOR amp builders and they all have a very distinctive distaste for Randall Smith and his "ethics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 that's a bad link...you might have meant this: http://sloclone.yesterdaysrevolt.com/ Thats it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 hey jug, where can i find pics of the different gutierrez guitars? i might want to order one someday when i'm not a broke ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/gunslinger1970/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 anytime....let me know if I can help. go to the forum on Rig-Talk and the price list and stuff are over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 yeah, i saw the link to the price list, and that's what sparked my curiosity. i really just wanted to know what a siren looked like:D. by the time i get what i want, it'll prolly be $3K, just because it seems like i have very expensive taste. such is life. i'll get with you if i ever scratch the dough together or win the lottery:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 i'm at $2300, and i'm sure the figured maple top i want is gonna cost more than the $400 listed for a maple top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 But the Mark series amps were "based" on the Dumble circuit, weren't they?I've talk to several MAJOR amp builders and they all have a very distinctive distaste for Randall Smith and his "ethics" well, see...i've never seen a dumble schematic. i just thought it was original to put the tone stack after the first triode instead of before the PI. if that's what dumbles were like, then, it's them that were originals and the mark series is just a variation on THAT theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 and, with a quick google search, i see that dumble did it in the 60's. so, i retract my statement about mesa and my hat is off to dumble instead for thinking outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yea, Bruce (Egnater), and Mark (Cameron) neither had anything good to say about Mesa..... BUT, I still LOVE my Mark IV regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 i tell ya...that little bit on the schematic for the MKIIC+ about successfully prosecuting infringers seems a bit shaky when that design was obviously stolen. i still wanna try it some day. put the tone stack after the first triode, and put a 6 band active EQ in between the preamp and power amp. sort of a combination of VHT, SLO, and IIC+. just seems like it could sound awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 check the "other noteworthy amps" forum at sloclone, they have been disecting the IIC+, the schematics (or what you can make out of them) are wrong.....check it out, they've done some pretty good work on it over there, even found someone who will make the simul-class trannies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 yeah, i've been watching that unfold for a while now. i'm tellin ya, i'm gonna take little bits of what i think make different amps sound good, and i'm gonna make one out of them and see what happens. worst case scenario, i'll be out a turret board and some turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xiwiwix1 Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 Thats it, I need to get me a SLO clone bad! With all the mods too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wolfeman28 Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 I need to get me a SLO clone bad! With all the mods too. I'm thinking about getting in the business of building them for people, since they seem to be becoming more of a wanted thing. Oh and BTW, whoever was talking crap about the 'cheap' weber transformers, you obviously haven't heard them. They kick all kinds of ass for the price. The OT is ballsy as {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm thinking about getting in the business of building them for people, since they seem to be becoming more of a wanted thing. Oh and BTW, whoever was talking crap about the 'cheap' weber transformers, you obviously haven't heard them. They kick all kinds of ass for the price. The OT is ballsy as {censored}. so, you're saying that weber transformers sound better than mercury magnetics transformers? and i never said the webers were bad, i said others were better. what, are you ted weber or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xiwiwix1 Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm waiting for the e-mail from SLOclone Forums so I can check out the forums. I can't see crap right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boris the Blade Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 so, you're saying that weber transformers sound better than mercury magnetics transformers? and i never said the webers were bad, i said others were better. what, are you ted weber or something? No where in his post did he say the webers are better than the Mercury Magnetics. He just said the webers are great for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 yeah, i've been watching that unfold for a while now. i'm tellin ya, i'm gonna take little bits of what i think make different amps sound good, and i'm gonna make one out of them and see what happens. worst case scenario, i'll be out a turret board and some turrets. I wanna see someone do the "Master Of Puppets" amp, with the IIC+ preamp, para eq and JMP all in one chassis..... If it could work, that would be something to see..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 No where in his post did he say the webers are better than the Mercury Magnetics. He just said the webers are great for the price. and nowhere in my original post was i "talking crap" about teh webers, but i notice that YOU failed to point that out to HIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xiwiwix1 Posted July 23, 2007 Members Share Posted July 23, 2007 I wanna see someone do the "Master Of Puppets" amp, with the IIC+ preamp, para eq and JMP all in one chassis..... If it could work, that would be something to see..... :eek::eek: :eek::eek: I was thinking the samething...kind of. Build an amp with the C+ pre section with a little more gain(I meant saturation kind of like boosting it with an SD-1) and a 2203 power section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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