Members shooto Posted May 16, 2009 Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 I want to clean up the line in/line out stuff on my pedal board...instead of having connections all over the place, what about some junction box thing where I can plug everything into one spot- I'm thinking the jacks could just be parallel wired so chain out is chain out, effects in is effects in, effects out is effects out...ect would that/this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 16, 2009 Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 I don't see this cleaning up anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 all the ins 'n outs are in one place rather than all over the place...I could use a snake for my connections- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 16, 2009 Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 It would be a very simple box. Get a pedal enclosure & six 1/4" jacks. Or find any suitable box to put it all together. I can see this making setup a little easier. If you feel a need, got for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted May 16, 2009 Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 A lot of production boards do this already. If I were you, I would even put the input into the box. So you have in, out, loop in, loop out. Super tidy. All you need are 8 jacks and a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 thanks- I think it will- was thinking about that mth...maybe- how would I wire the jacks?...tip to tip and sleeve to sleeve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 16, 2009 Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yes, tip to tip, sleeve to sleeve. I only see a need for 6 jacks. And I'd keep the loop & chain completely seperate. Otherwise there wouldn't be a point in doing this exercise at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yes, tip to tip, sleeve to sleeve. I only see a need for 6 jacks. And I'd keep the loop & chain completely seperate. Otherwise there wouldn't be a point in doing this exercise at all. thanks- what do you mean you'd keep the loop and chain seperate?...two boxes (one for loop & one for chain)?...my drawing using one box wouldn't work combining them? (they are of course wired sperately, just housed together)...do I need to ground in the box or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 17, 2009 Members Share Posted May 17, 2009 One box. I misread mth's post. I thought he meant to combine the two. Hell, for this project you could use a mint box. Velcro to your board & you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted May 17, 2009 Members Share Posted May 17, 2009 You could even make this cooler.. put a blend control in.. a power supply.. it could get pretty epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 17, 2009 Members Share Posted May 17, 2009 Good idea. Blend the loop & chain to your liking. Put your power supply for the whole board in the box. Now that would clean things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mackin Posted May 17, 2009 Members Share Posted May 17, 2009 A guy whose nickname is LEROY something has a thread open about his own custom loop box (it's here in the DIY forum). It's really nice, you should check it out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FlyingZ Posted May 18, 2009 Members Share Posted May 18, 2009 Noise is likely if the grounds are all tied together. Isolate the loop with plastic jacks and use the input for box grounding. Like he said: And I'd keep the loop & chain completely seperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted May 18, 2009 Members Share Posted May 18, 2009 Noise is likely if the grounds are all tied together. Isolate the loop with plastic jacks and use the input for box grounding.Like he said: Why couldn't you just connect the in/in jack grounds together, the out/out jacks and whatnot. Wouldn't that just be a continuation of the 'cable' and be like running a cable right next to each other? I guess since the wires are exposed, maybe, but with plastic jacks there shouldn't be any physical connections besides the jack and it's corrosponding out part... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 18, 2009 ^ what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FlyingZ Posted May 18, 2009 Members Share Posted May 18, 2009 Why couldn't you just connect the in/in jack grounds together, the out/out jacks and whatnot. Wouldn't that just be a continuation of the 'cable' and be like running a cable right next to each other? I guess since the wires are exposed, maybe, but with plastic jacks there shouldn't be any physical connections besides the jack and it's corrosponding out part... right? On a metal jack the ring is in contact with the nut so all nuts are connected through the metal box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RobbieJ Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 This guy sells this type of thing and even does custom orders I am pretty sure. I ordered a couple things from them and it is very nice stuff and put together well. But I guess this is a DIY thread. ; ) Anyway his site may give you some ideas too! http://www.loop-master.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 What Flying Z is saying is the Effects loop ground may not be common to the Input ground. If your amp has plastic marshall type input jacks this may be the case. If input jacks and loop jacks are the metal type that ground to the frame its a non issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FlyingZ Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 What Flying Z is saying is the Effects loop ground may not be common to the Input ground. If your amp has plastic marshall type input jacks this may be the case. If input jacks and loop jacks are the metal type that ground to the frame its a non issue. Yes, I neglected to elaborate, thanks WRGKMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 ^ so I DO have to ground the box if my amp has plastic jacks and DON'T if it has metal jacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FlyingZ Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 So it will work for all scenarios use a metal box and only use plastic jacks for the effects loop. The guitar ground must touch the box and the effects loop ground must NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted May 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 So it will work for all scenarios use a metal box and only use plastic jacks for the effects loop. The guitar ground must touch the box and the effects loop ground must NOT. ^ thanks- just wondering...if I wanted the resilience of metal jacks, could I use plastic or rubber washers to keep the metal from touching the box on the loop connections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 24, 2009 Members Share Posted May 24, 2009 I believe so. Worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shooto Posted June 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 ok, have a couple questions...(this would have been easier to just use plastic jacks, but like I said, I want something more resilient) anyway... 1) would it fry everything if the loop connectors were metal and DID touch the box? 2) I was thinking of an alternative way to create a barrier for the loop connections- what about using that Liquid Tape stuff (liquid electrical tape) and use that as a barrier between metal parts and the box for the loop connections...do you think that would work? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FlyingZ Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 1) would it fry everything if the loop connectors were metal and DID touch the box? It would hum annoyingly. Quality plastic jacks will last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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