Members george black Posted November 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members george black Posted November 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 How can you say that when you dont even care for steel string gits?????? Hey Q, lots of good points. I interpreted the "bottom line" statement to mean his bottom line. My bottom line doesn't even involve steel string guitars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gthom Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 My opinion after playing many of each is that Collings kicks their butts. That's my bottom line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffmeister Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 How can you say that when you dont even care for steel string gits?????? Good point. Regarding all guitars, I definitely have a soft spot for nylon string instruments. That said, I have had a steel string acoustic since I was 8 years old (44 years). I owned a Martin D28 and a Guild 12-string for many, many years. My current collection involves ~20 electric and acoustic guitars, the nylon stringers dominate. In the steel string acoustic department, a Collings OM and dreadnought occupy my "bottom line". Martin & Gibson are Iconic, to be sure, and as you say, they have and will continue to withstand the test of time. But my ears and fingers prefer Collings by a pretty wide margin. They are expensive guitars and so they had better well be top quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members george black Posted November 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 O K you got my respect. I actually thought of buying a Collins since they are made just up the street, but they are $$ and I just can not go off on another tangent. Hell if they are all that, and I have heard they are, what would I do then??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kidhuey Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 thanks, would love to some day own a D-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffmeister Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 O K you got my respect. I actually thought of buying a Collins since they are made just up the street, but they are $$ and I just can not go off on another tangent. Hell if they are all that, and I have heard they are, what would I do then??????????? Right, don't do it......you might quit collecting which is a lot of fun! Martin and Gibson acoustic guitars have been in the hands of more famous musicians than any other brand. It's a great hobby to look for the good ones. (plus you are having fun making music all the while) I'm a "collector" of sorts with my classical guitars, I have several instruments from a luthier from NYC who is considered the "dean" of American classical guitar lutherie. (it's not Ricky, I promise) It's a different scale, though. He has made about 800 guitars in his lifetime. Martin makes that in one day. Collings makes that in one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members george black Posted November 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 First it is nice not to rick rolled for a change. Second that was down right touching. Very good example of what total dedication can accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guildfire Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 You are all wrong and liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kujozilla Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 have you played any of the old Gibson J-40's that were still mahogany instead of plywood? I know they won't hold up against the martins and stuff but I have played one that my grandfather owns for a while and it isn't too shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iago Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 To queequeq. Yes I will be glad to explain that statement. Martin made a CEO4 limited edition of 300 wonderful guitars. They are shaped like a gibj45. They look something like a gib J45, but not as pretty . They sound like a J45 but are CLEAR, LOUD, AND FRANKLY JUST WHAT I ALWAYS HOPED FOR IN A GIB J45. They are not muffled, without sustain. They do not sound like they have been dropped in swimming pool. Other than that I guess they are the same. Okay this line made me On some days that's exactly what my J45 sounds like. And it's not always humid days either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxorox Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 Collection, no. More like an accumulation for me. A good guitar is a good guitar, no matter the name on the headstock. Buy what you love and you won't go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C70man Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 There are a lot of nice sounding Gibsons around...and a few great sounding Epiphone Texans too. A decent set up is critical with a guitar like that, as are the right strings for how the guitar is set up. When I walk into Ed's shop, I am amazed at what he can do to make a guitar sound great. His 40 years of messing around with guitars has really given him an ear and talent that's hard to find. I wouldn't be afraid to buy anything, short of giving it to him to make right. Ed owns all kinds of Gibsons and other guitars and he thinks a new Gibson right out of the factory is worth owning....being that he is an expert and I am not, and how his Gibsons sound....I tend to agree with him. I have played incredible sounding J45's, J50's, SJ's, and Epiphones from the 50's and 60's. I have played Gibson LG'2-3s as far back as from the 40's. It's probably true that a brand new one (like a lot of guitars) can use some playing time before they really open up, but to me that's not a real deterent. I would buy new, if I had the money AND I couldn't find a used one I liked. Martins are equally nice and the D28's, though I have picked up a "dead" one at GC, are fantastic guitars...I was recently offer to buy a HD28V for $1300 and walked away...I was shaking. That guitar sounded and played marvelous. But alas...I'm saving for my J45...when the monies all there....I'm buying one...period...I've wanted one for some time now, and to me, it will be (or become) my favorite go-to guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Queequeg Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 There are a lot of nice sounding Gibsons around...and a few great sounding Epiphone Texans too. A decent set up is critical with a guitar like that, as are the right strings for how the guitar is set up. When I walk into Ed's shop, I am amazed at what he can do to make a guitar sound great. His 40 years of messing around with guitars has really given him an ear and talent that's hard to find. I wouldn't be afraid to buy anything, short of giving it to him to make right. Ed owns all kinds of Gibsons and other guitars and he thinks a new Gibson right out of the factory is worth owning....being that he is an expert and I am not, and how his Gibsons sound....I tend to agree with him. I have played incredible sounding J45's, J50's, SJ's, and Epiphones from the 50's and 60's. I have played Gibson LG'2-3s as far back as from the 40's. It's probably true that a brand new one (like a lot of guitars) can use some playing time before they really open up, but to me that's not a real deterent. I would buy new, if I had the money AND I couldn't find a used one I liked. Martins are equally nice and the D28's, though I have picked up a "dead" one at GC, are fantastic guitars...I was recently offer to buy a HD28V for $1300 and walked away...I was shaking. That guitar sounded and played marvelous. But alas...I'm saving for my J45...when the monies all there....I'm buying one...period...I've wanted one for some time now, and to me, it will be (or become) my favorite go-to guitar. Bottom line, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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