Members shinsengumi Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 I recently got a Yamaha CG171SF flamenco guitar new, and have been learning some techniques, etc. I restrung it with D'addario EJ45 I think, and for whatever reason after either some playing, or leaving the guitar overnight, the strings all invariably go flat by almost half a step. This is my first nylon-stringer, and I restrung it following some very thorough instructions.... Is this normal? My steel stringer doesn't do this, and neither do my electrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jd-drafter Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 i think it's common for it to take a few days for them to take a set... also... did you stretch them when you put them on? have fun with the flamenco... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shinsengumi Posted July 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 It's been about 10 days. I didn't stretch them, I read that for Nylon strings it's best to let them settle...it seems like it's been long enough though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stackabones Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 The old joke about nylons ... How do you know when change nylon strings? When they stay in tune. Hang in there. I can take more than ten days sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 Your strings are either still settling in or there's slippage at the tuner posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yea - they take forever. Lovely sound though - it makes it all worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffmeister Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 It's been about 10 days. I didn't stretch them, I read that for Nylon strings it's best to let them settle...it seems like it's been long enough though.. 10 days is a bit long. Things that help minimize the stretch-in period: 1. minimize the number of wraps on the tuning roller2. *gently* stretch each string down near the saddle to tighten up the knot on the tie block when you are tuning up for the first time3. *gently* pull the string up (away from the fretboard) at the 12th fret when tuning up for the first time When I do this, the guitar is playable after the first ~15 minutes of being brought to pitch with new strings. Maintenance tuning is needed for the first ~3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Opa John Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 10 days is a bit long. Things that help minimize the stretch-in period:1. minimize the number of wraps on the tuning roller2. *gently* stretch each string down near the saddle to tighten up the knot on the tie block when you are tuning up for the first time3. *gently* pull the string up (away from the fretboard) at the 12th fret when tuning up for the first timeWhen I do this, the guitar is playable after the first ~15 minutes of being brought to pitch with new strings. Maintenance tuning is needed for the first ~3 days. I'm sure your experience with nylon string guitars is a lot better than mine, but I've never been able to get it down to THREE days. My experience has always been more like about a week, at least. And I'm doing all the same things when installing new strings and tuning up. I use high tension strings. Next time I think I'll buy SUPER high tension! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarVlog Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 Normal thing. But as riff alluded, there are tricks to getting them to settle faster. Mine settle in about 5 days but temperature/humidity will cause them to change from day to day. Here's new trick I may try next: http://toddtipton.homestead.com/newstringsarticle.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffmeister Posted July 9, 2010 Members Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm sure your experience with nylon string guitars is a lot better than mine, but I've never been able to get it down to THREE days. My experience has always been more like about a week, at least. And I'm doing all the same things when installing new strings and tuning up. I use high tension strings. Next time I think I'll buy SUPER high tension! Good point about strings. Nylon takes a while to stretch in, but other materials, for example whatever is used in Galli "Titanio" strings, allows the string to come up to pitch extremely fast. I've tried them and was amazed at that quality. Unfortunately, I didn't care for the sound. Oh well, guess you can't have your cake and eat it too in the world of nylon string guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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