Members danxrs05 Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 What is the difference between the: EXP 80/20 Bronze wound and EXP coated phosphore bronze wound ?????? I read the description and it says....one is 80/20 bronze and the other phosphore bronze...lol That I don't understand...i'm french so I need your help!!! hehehe. Thanks! :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PieterH Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 80/20 have more bronze and give a harder sound, the phosphor bronze are a lighter sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danxrs05 Posted September 17, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 example of harder or lighter sound? What do you meen by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 80/20 (brass) wound strings have more fundamental simple characteristics.PB (phosphor bronze) wound strings produce more color and complex overtones. That's just my take on it. Other posters will have their views as well. It's kinda subjective. If you want to know the difference between 80/20 and PB strings, buy a set of both, and compare them on the same guitar. I would suggest the less expensive uncoated strings for your experimentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 80/20 have more bronze and give a harder sound, the phosphor bronze are a lighter sound. They have the same amount of bronze. Bronze is an alloy, meaning a combination of base metals. 80/20 bronze is 80% copper and 20% tin. Phosphor bronze is 92% copper, 7% tin, and 1% phosphor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixgunner455 Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 I prefer the PB on my cedar topped guitar, but am quite happy to play either if that's what's available. Strings are cheap. You have to try them out to see which you like better. I like the overtones the PB gives me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seagullplayer77 Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 They have the same amount of bronze. Bronze is an alloy, meaning a combination of base metals. 80/20 bronze is 80% copper and 20% tin. Phosphor bronze is 92% copper, 7% tin, and 1% phosphor. This ^ is the difference between the two strings. Metallurgically, phosphor bronze contains less tin and more phosphorus than 80/20 bronze. The tin content isn't set and according to Wikipedia, it typically varies from 3.5% to 10%. In terms of sound, phosphor bronze generally produces a warmer, mellower tone. But that's subject to interpretation and personal taste. Some string manufacturers (Martin comes to mind) claim that their phosphor bronze strings are actually brighter than their 80/20s. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 10ae1203 Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 80-20 strings seem to last longer for me than PB. So I like them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 This ^ is the difference between the two strings.Metallurgically, phosphor bronze contains less tin and more phosphorus than 80/20 bronze. The tin content isn't set and according to Wikipedia, it typically varies from 3.5% to 10%.In terms of sound, phosphor bronze generally produces a warmer, mellower tone. But that's subject to interpretation and personal taste. Some string manufacturers (Martin comes to mind) claim that their phosphor bronze strings are actually brighter than their 80/20s. YMMV. I've heard that before too. My impression is just the opposite tho. I think it depends a lot on the guitar. Some guitars respond well to the tonal characteristics of PB strings, other guitars definitely do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PieterH Posted September 22, 2010 Members Share Posted September 22, 2010 They have the same amount of bronze. Bronze is an alloy, meaning a combination of base metals. 80/20 bronze is 80% copper and 20% tin. Phosphor bronze is 92% copper, 7% tin, and 1% phosphor. Oops, sorry, you're quite right - although according to your figures the phosphor bronze, in that case, have more copper and less tin and overall a very slightly lower amount of (differently proportioned) bronze. Whatever, I like phosphor bronze more, I prefer the lighter sound with more complex overtones etc - I tend to buy bronze or 80/20 for smaller guitars that need more punch (my wife's Talman for example) or when my local store has run out of ph/b strings! 80/20 are nice for Bluegrass if one doesn't want to go for Bluegrass sets with heavier bass end strings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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