Members jazzbo Posted June 29, 2005 Members Share Posted June 29, 2005 How does one acheive that tone? Especially if using a Line 6 POD 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ryant Posted June 29, 2005 Members Share Posted June 29, 2005 get a modded purple marshall, and a micro amp, and you'll get it. You could try crafting that on the pod, use the marshall amp emu with one of the overdrive stompbox models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ryant Posted June 29, 2005 Members Share Posted June 29, 2005 also getting an eq to put between the pod and whatevers amplifying it would help you get a lot closer to the tone. i think it was EVH who used to boost his mids way up before the pre and then would scoop them after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Thanks for the info. In surfing, I have found an article that claims he used a Super Lead Head with everything cranked to 10 with a dummy load as a pre-amp to his effects and then a standard power amp to boost the signal! Actually sounds like a good idea... for any kind of sound because it will sound better with the output stage cranked up. The article also mentions what you said, about boosting his mids on before the pre and then scooping them after the pre. Check it out if you want: http://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound6.htmthis is the signal chainthe whole articlehttp://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bruce Bennett Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 here's one possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by Bruce Bennett here's one possibility Cool!I wish those sound bites were up, I'd like to hear what it sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by jazzbo Thanks for the info. In surfing, I have found an article that claims he used a Super Lead Head with everything cranked to 10 with a dummy load as a pre-amp to his effects and then a standard power amp to boost the signal! Actually sounds like a good idea... for any kind of sound because it will sound better with the output stage cranked up. The article also mentions what you said, about boosting his mids on before the pre and then scooping them after the pre. Check it out if you want: http://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound6.htmthis is the signal chainthe whole articlehttp://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound.htm How is he using the dummy load? What could be used today? I don't get it. The dummy load comes before the echoplex and the cabinets. How does this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members powerplayj Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Check out scottosan's clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by ColorsoundKid How is he using the dummy load? What could be used today? I don't get it. The dummy load comes before the echoplex and the cabinets. How does this work? Check this out, for example:http://www.amptone.com/marshallpowerbrake.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by powerplayj Check out scottosan's clips Wow, that sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bruce Bennett Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by jazzbo Cool! I wish those sound bites were up, I'd like to hear what it sounds like. yeah.. you and me both.. oh well maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by Bruce Bennett yeah.. you and me both.. oh well maybe someday. Not to worry! By the way, I liked the picture of the cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baimun Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 How to get a brown sound??? Step 1: Throw computer chips in garbage can. Step 2: Sits back and waits for POD people to flip out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by jazzbo Check this out, for example:http://www.amptone.com/marshallpowerbrake.htm I understand how an attenuator works, but is it safe to run your effects after it before your cabinet and use it like an effects loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reaper Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 baimun +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by baimun Sits back and waits for POD people to flip out. What were those GLOWING things?! Just kidding, of course. A POD is a handy tool, but it will never replace a nice Marshall tube amp. Though I generally find I can get a decent tone out of it, it doesn't really compare to the real thing. I was more interested in how to set the dials if I wanted to approximate that sound. I'd rather have a real Marshall. Someday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzbo Posted June 30, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by ColorsoundKid I understand how an attenuator works, but is it safe to run your effects after it before your cabinet and use it like an effects loop? As I understand it, as long as you are careful to match the impedances and use good cables, there is a -32 dB output setting which puts out the right level for effects boxes and then into a separate power amp. But if you don't use the extra power amp, it wouldn't be safe to run a high voltage signal through your effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAtomicJeff Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Here's more:http://www.amptone.com/eddievanhalenrig.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baimun Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 I own both a tube amp and a modeller... ... The modellery is a fine tool for direct recording or headphone practice... but for TONE..... Gotta have tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ncook Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by jazzbo Thanks for the info. In surfing, I have found an article that claims he used a Super Lead Head with everything cranked to 10 with a dummy load as a pre-amp to his effects and then a standard power amp to boost the signal! Actually sounds like a good idea... for any kind of sound because it will sound better with the output stage cranked up. The article also mentions what you said, about boosting his mids on before the pre and then scooping them after the pre. Check it out if you want: http://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound6.htmthis is the signal chainthe whole articlehttp://www.legendarytones.com/brown_sound.htm So, whats a dummy load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baimun Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 The amplifier needs to have a load on it (speaker cabinets usually). A dummy load (power soak, hotplate, etc) are a set of capacitors and heat sinks that absorb the output power of an amp to reduce the signal to bedroom, and sometimes even direct recording, levels. Why generate all that power just to bleed it off??? Because power tubes that are being PUSHED HARD reach their upper limits and begin to "clip" the sound. Solid state clipping is abrupt and harsh... tube clipping is spongier... and is where much of that great tone comes from. This give-take relationship that tubes have with their input signal is why good tube amps are so touch sensitive to dynamics, pick attack, volume swells, and gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 He used that variac also that controled the voltage so the tubes wert actualy being pushed that hard were they? When you look at his setup, i wonder how many amps he blew before he found his sound. What a rigamaroo mess. was his power amp tubes? or solid state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArthurS Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by BowerR64 was his power amp tubes? or solid state? Solid state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lump Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 The POD xt has a patch titled Eruption that is in the ballpark for jamming on. It uses the marshall with the variax model. I don't know if that is a model in the pod, or if it's just the XT. One odd thing I've found with the Pod is most of the patches have a flabby/farty low end. I've found that if you add a distortion pedal to the simulation it tightens it up. Doesn't have to be set high in the distortion catagory. I had a pod a long time ago and found the same issue. Since the Pod didn't have the footpedal options I actualy went and got one of the Boss Overdrives. It really helped tighten everything up and loose the flab. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted June 30, 2005 Members Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by ColorsoundKid I understand how an attenuator works, but is it safe to run your effects after it before your cabinet and use it like an effects loop? NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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