Members The Anti-Fender Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 I can't {censored}ing stand guitars that can't stay in tune. This 1996 les paul my brother has just won't. Its so infuriating. I hate that guitar. I love my RG. ...discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Europa760 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 you sure its the guitars fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members straightblues Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Almost every guitar can and will stay in tune if it has a good professional setup. Pay $50 and have one done on it and you will be very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Especially on stop tail guitars. I had an Ibanez RX60 ($400 AUD) that had the crappiest tuning machines ever...so rusty they would go out with the slightest bend. Not to mention a very worn graphite nut. So I went out and bought a set of Gotoh machine heads ($50 AUD) and got a bone nut put in. Tuning stabilty was unshakable! I never really used the trem, so I was cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Highway_61 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by straightblues Almost every guitar can and will stay in tune if it has a good professional setup. Pay $50 and have one done on it and you will be very happy. Key words, here, are "almost every." Some guitars are effed-up and, even allowing for the fact the perfect intonation is impossible, are never going to be more than a lot of startegizing and compromising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 To many variables. Stretch the strings, lubricate the nut, make sure the truss is adjusted right. Tighten the screws on the tuners. Some tuner can get slopy, some have little screws that can be tightened on the tuner peg that puts some friction on the tuner that can help it stay tuned. Switching out the tuners could help. Say the G is slipping, try to swap it with the high E tuner that needs less tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anti-Fender Posted August 2, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 every hardtail i've ever played, including every gibson i've ever played has had a slipproblem with the G string.go floyd rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 where does it slip on the hardtail? I would think this is the most stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Anti-Fender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flyguitar Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 go floyd rose 2 much beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brikus Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by The Anti-Fender I can't {censored}ing stand guitars that can't stay in tune. This 1996 les paul my brother has just won't. Its so infuriating. I hate that guitar. I love my RG. ...discuss Sometimes tightening the tuners is enough to help them stay in tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pizza Combo Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 I can't stand a guitar that won't stay in tune, being in tune is the first and most overlooked step for good tone.That's why I only play Floyd Roses, fixed bridges suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LeGreatOne Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Here's a hint. If you have trouble keeping a guitar in tune you probably don't have the strings tight enough at the string pegs. You can correct this either of two ways, although the second way listed is best if you have gold plated posts and want to preserve the finish. (1) After inserting the end of the string through the post, wrap it around the post to where the string has entered the hole. Next, pull the string under and then over itself at the string hole. You will have created a loop in the string. Now tighten the string by turning the tuning keys. With the string wrapped over the loop, its far less likely to pull loose. This is the standard method for tieing acoustic guitar strings at the post. Always keep some tension on the string as you wind it by lifting it away from the post. This gives a good, tight winding. (2) With Gold plated tuning posts its easier on the finish if you don't wrap the string over a loop. Instead, use a String Winder tool. Insert perhaps two inches of the string through the post, bend the string slightly at the post, and then using the winder, crank the remaining several inches of string around the post while you apply tension to the string by lifting. This will wrap the string nice and tight, although it does take alot of string winder cranking. BONUS HINT: To further preserve the gold plate on the posts (actually to make it a little less likely that you'll damage the plating), use a set of strings that are ribbon wrapped on the end that goes through the post hole. So far, the only strings I've used that have this wrapping are Thomastik-Infeld brand. It's a nice feature that can help to avoid the abrasion on the plated posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackbelt1 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by The Anti-Fender every hardtail i've ever played, including every gibson i've ever played has had a slipproblem with the G string. OK, set down the crack pipe and slowly step away. I've owned probably 20 hardtail guitars over the years; I have 4 right now. I don't recall ever once facing this issue. Maybe the guitars you've played haven't been properly strung and set up? (just thinkin' out loud)~Blackbelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k4df4l Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 The three things I look at when there are tuning issues are the guitar hardware/nut, the stringing technique and the player.If every hardtail you have ever played won't stay in tune, I would bet it aint the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lorsban Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 I have a nighthawk special '94 and I have the same problem with the g string. My bridge is different from an lp but it is fixed so it could probably be the tuner. I don't have this problem with my epi with the grovers. It seems to be common with the tuners with the gibson logo and white/cream pegs. I had an rg470 tho and I gotta say THAT was a bitch to tune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geddins81 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by k4df4l The three things I look at when there are tuning issues are the guitar hardware/nut, the stringing technique and the player. If every hardtail you have ever played won't stay in tune, I would be it aint the guitar. What he said. Once I started using a good stringing technique several years ago, my tuning woes went away. Even on guitars with what I consider less then desirable tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VoodooChild24 Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 One word : Ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acravero Posted August 2, 2005 Members Share Posted August 2, 2005 Originally posted by Blackbelt1 OK, set down the crack pipe and slowly step away. I've owned probably 20 hardtail guitars over the years; I have 4 right now. I don't recall ever once facing this issue. Maybe the guitars you've played haven't been properly strung and set up? (just thinkin' out loud) ~Blackbelt LOLSince it's a real LP, if it has the Gibson Kluson tuners they're most likely not the issue. It probably has one of those {censored}ty chalk-looking factory nuts. I don't know what they're made of, but they suck big-time. Get a good bone nut (properly cut/filed and installed), make sure you have enough windings on the pegs, tune it up, and it should be fine. Cost--about $30. Why they don't put bone nuts on $1500 guitars at the factory, I'll never know. It would probably cost them about $2 a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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