Members jvhc Posted December 2, 2005 Members Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hey Does anyone know if these two guitars are the same? They have the same specs, but one says it is a Premium model. The model is the ST62-70TX (Correct me if I'm Wrong) This is the premium model one Also what are better, Texas Specials or Vintage USA's? Thanks alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvhc Posted December 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2005 Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KarateSchnitzel Posted December 3, 2005 Members Share Posted December 3, 2005 57/62s are prob the us vintage ones....more authentic low output glassy strat tone...texas specials are great pickups for some people... they are grittier and meatier..more mids and higher output.. tho i personaly find them a little harsh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvhc Posted December 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2005 Theres two models - you can get 57s and 62s with either Texas specials or US vintage pickups. I was wondering whether the two guitars in the links were the same models, 'cos one says its a premium one and one doesn't, yet it still may be. I see you have two 62's, what pickups do you use in them, how do they sound? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KarateSchnitzel Posted December 3, 2005 Members Share Posted December 3, 2005 my favourite (the am RI) has the fender 57/62s in and i can't say enough god things about them...for classic strat tones they are amazing - but some friends find them a little low output.... great vintage edge and vibe.. the MIJ has retrofitted bareknuckles in it - for a bit more kick but not harsh like the texas specials..still sounds very much like a strat should - it's my more rock guitar.. but tbh for nearly everything i use my 57/62s... just be sure you love the low output - for a lot of people used to modern styled pickups the old ones sound a bit low output and wiry in a lot of cases.......... sorry adjectives for pickups are ridiculous aren't they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvhc Posted December 3, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2005 Kool, thanks. I'll probably search around for some more reviews of Texas specials and US vintage's. Do you know if the two guitars in the links are the same model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted December 4, 2005 Members Share Posted December 4, 2005 Fender Japan does not refer to their models as Re Issues...we do. They have several "catagories " I guess we could call them Vintage, Vintage Premium, Craft Premium, J-Craft, Vintage and Vintage Collection...I think thats everything.Some folks are happy with the Texas Specials, others prefer the Vintage... hard to say whats better, depends on who`s playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvhc Posted December 5, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2005 Ah okay, so is this one a Vintage Premium, and the ST62-70 on this site just a Vintage? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted December 5, 2005 Members Share Posted December 5, 2005 The Vintage Premium is probably more like the ST62G-80TX at the Ishibashi site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted December 6, 2005 Members Share Posted December 6, 2005 the ST62G-80TX is one of the Craft Premium series in the catalogs.I`ve noticed in my catalogs, for their strats only...NOT the basses and teles... FJ puts the Vintage p`ups in their lower priced basswood bodies and the Texas Specials in the higher end ash and alder models. I`m not saying one is better than the other but for whatever reason, that appears to be FJs strategy.So if you want an alder or ash body, go for the Texas p`ups...basswood?...get the Vintage p`ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted December 6, 2005 Members Share Posted December 6, 2005 Originally posted by zenbu the ST62G-80TX is one of the Craft Premium series in the catalogs.Fender Japan does not refer to their models as Re Issues...we do. Hmmm...Maybe it is a marketing fluke, but Ishibashi refers some models as specific year "models" or "versions". Is it appropriate to use the model prefix"ST58", "ST62", etc. to generically speak of '58 and '62 "reissues"?See these listrings:http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/body/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ishibashi.co.jp%2Fwebshop%2Fguitar%2Ffender-j%2Fst-index.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 6, 2005 Members Share Posted December 6, 2005 I'm liking the ST62-58US in vintage white. 46,400 yen comes to $384.01USD. Figure in the $120 or so shipping and it's right about at $500.It doesn't say if it includes a case and I'm guessing it doesn't. That could be the deal breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted December 6, 2005 Members Share Posted December 6, 2005 well yes the first digits in the model number are the year, followed by the digits in thousands of yen. FJ did and continues to make special runs for the chain shops here so all bets are off regarding those...I`m going by what shows up in the catalogs. I`ve no idea what Ishibashi has for FJs because I`m only interested in buying used and I got one a coule of years ago that is stamped IKEBE in the pock & on the neck but...thay are a chain here in Japan and it`s a 1954 replica and they went all out on these...it may be the best sounding strat I own bar none. The body is 2 pieces of ash in 2 tone burst but they are so well matched it looks like one, came with full size US electronics and MIA p`ups. An outstanding guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted December 6, 2005 Members Share Posted December 6, 2005 Originally posted by zenbu well yes the first digits in the model number are the year, followed by the digits in thousands of yen. FJ did and continues to make special runs for the chain shops here so all bets are off regarding those...I`m going by what shows up in the catalogs. I`ve no idea what Ishibashi has for FJs because I`m only interested in buying used and I got one a coule of years ago that is stamped IKEBE in the pock & on the neck but...thay are a chain here in Japan and it`s a 1954 replica and they went all out on these...it may be the best sounding strat I own bar none. The body is 2 pieces of ash in 2 tone burst but they are so well matched it looks like one, came with full size US electronics and MIA p`ups. An outstanding guitar. Maybe it comes down to a "style" or "version" being close enough. Some reissues are museum replicas down to the last detail (and expensive). I do believe that an ST62-70 (fitted with vintage style pups rather than TX) is closer to an original '62 than a MIM Classic 60's. It must be a kick having access to the best in Japanese guitars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.