Members GibsonQC Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Okay, so I'll agree that LoveRocks are pretty nice LP Copies, but why is this one so special? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7408468280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tweedledee Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 It's actually someone here. Check out the fourth page of the spam thread and you'll see the same guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Because its a MIJ LS-320!!!! Also its a forumite so I'd watch your mouth! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Its the top of the line MIJ Tokai. As high quality as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7406479596 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by batotman Because its a MIJ LS-320!!!! Also its a forumite so I'd watch your mouth! lol lol Okay, so maybe "nonsense" was a bit harsh. I just didn't realize that Tokai made a copy of an LP that sold for more than the price of the guitar it is copying. . . That said, I do like the looks of the $400-$600 Tokai Love Rock guitars. BA, I know you've owned a few. . . What model numbers are the best sub $700 ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 I saw that too. I can't imagine why anybody would pay that much for a copy when you can get a Custom Shop Gibson for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supercow3 Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by GibsonQC lolOkay, so maybe "nonsense" was a bit harsh. I just didn't realize that Tokai made a copy of an LP that sold for more than the price of the guitar it is copying. . . That said, I do like the looks of the $400-$600 Tokai Love Rock guitars. BA, I know you've owned a few. . . What model numbers are the best sub $700 ones? Where can you find a real lp for that price with that kind of top? This model isnt imitating the standard or classice but more like the gibson custom shop:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by supercow3 Where can you find a real lp for that price with that kind of top? This model isnt imitating the standard or classice but more like the gibson custom shop:) Personally, if I were going to drop $2600 on an LP, I'd go for something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Historic-Les-Paul-1958-Reissue-2002-FLAMETOP_W0QQitemZ7406500750QQcategoryZ38086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This one is pretty hot, too: http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Supreme-AAAA-Flame-Top-AS-NEW_W0QQitemZ7406706739QQcategoryZ47072QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem But, I would never pay that much for a guitar. Too rich for my blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supercow3 Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by GibsonQC Personally, if I were going to drop $2600 on an LP, I'd go for something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Historic-Les-Paul-1958-Reissue-2002-FLAMETOP_W0QQitemZ7406500750QQcategoryZ38086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem This one is pretty hot, too: http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Supreme-AAAA-Flame-Top-AS-NEW_W0QQitemZ7406706739QQcategoryZ47072QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem But, I would never pay that much for a guitar. Too rich for my blood. yeah i have to agre with you, i wouldnt pay soo much for a guitar my self..as for choosing gibson over tokai, you know what they say about gibsons qc;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbbeSauniere Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF I saw that too. I can't imagine why anybody would pay that much for a copy when you can get a Custom Shop Gibson for less. All of the '59 Les Paul Custom Shop Guitars I've seen on Ebay are selling for a lot more than $2600. The 320s have a reputation for being AT LEAST as good as the Gibson Custom Shop Guitars. I own a LS200, which has slayed every standard Les Paul I've tried. The quality is definitely on par with the Gibson Custom Shop and I bought it for the price of a regular Standard. If you want to save a few bucks and still get an absolutely amazing guitar and don't stay awake at night because the headstock doesn't say Gibson, than the Tokai is a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WhiskeyBucket Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hey Abbe, how much do those LS200's run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by supercow3 yeah i have to agre with you, i wouldnt pay soo much for a guitar my self..as for choosing gibson over tokai, you know what they say about gibsons qc;) Indeed I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbbeSauniere Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by WhiskeyBucket Hey Abbe, how much do those LS200's run? I got mine for $1350 shipped from Japan, if I remember correctly. Not sure what they run new. Herbs have fogged my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TaZMaNiO Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 After playing a couple of those recent high-dollar MIJ Tokai LS320s I can see why they're for sale and why R9s are still a smokin' deal at $3000-3500. Even my R8 ($2200) smokes those LS320s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buckwild Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 I'm sure there are several Gibson Purist here and I myself own a Historic R0, but the Tokai LS-320 is an amazing guitar. You won't find a Gibson Historic with a Brazilian fret board for the same price(in my opinion a R9 with a brazilian board is the same league as this LS-320). Not to mention that the Tokai has a AAAA top that is very nice compared to a lot of R9 and R8's I've seen. Like was stated above it's rare that a R9 sells below $3000 and furthermore Historic R9's with brazilian boards cost around $6000. Anybody who wagers that his R8 or R9 can smoke a Tokai clearly has not seen a nice example of a LS200 or LS320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by TaZMaNiO After playing a couple of those recent high-dollar MIJ Tokai LS320s I can see why they're for sale and why R9s are still a smokin' deal at $3000-3500. Even my R8 ($2200) smokes those LS320s... Where have you played a couple of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supercow3 Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by batotman Where have you played a couple of them? i guitar lala land maybe ..joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by supercow3 i guitar lala land maybe ..joking Definitely wasn't Guitar Center! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigmikeinca Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Whao there Nellie !!!!!!!!! I am sure glad I can use my FIRST POST here to stand up to you ONLY A GIBSON IS GOOD ENOUGH guys and say I bought my Tokai LS200 from BUCKWILD !! And that is after looking at a lot of Gibson Les Pauls all over the Bay Area and eBay and frankly being VERY LET DOWN by what Gibson is putting out. EVEN the Custom Shop and Historics are sadly lacking in build quality. I'm 59 and what Gibson is cranking out these days is really starting to remind me of the Norlin Era crapola they were knocking out 30 years ago... Sorry but that LS320 is a real screamer and you guys should get off your high horses and actually play a Tokai before being so high and mighty to knock them as you have. And frankly the lower priced Tokais you talked about, well they're ok if you're 19 and have a job at McDonalds and can't afford a better instrument. But they're laminated tops or MIK with cheaper pots, pickups and such - no better than any EPI LP. The cheaper good Tokais are a thing of the past, just like guys that think some of the hot Ibanez hollowbodies from the late 70's early 80's should still cost under a Grand are living in the past... Folks have figured out that these are some really especially well made instruments that rival or BEAT the American brands by a lot... And I'm a guy that owns a number of high end American and Japanese guitars and there's a lot of Gibsons that are laughably bad... Usually I am more relaxed and easy to get along with but you G-lovers needed to have your ears pushed back some. Here's a shot of my LS200... Not bad eh ?? And through my old Blackfaced Deluxe Reverb and Dumble Pedal this thing is such a screamer !!!!!!!! BigMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigmikeinca Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Oh Yeah, and just so you know Money Ain't No Object in my search for the Holy Grail Guitars I'm keen on here's a shot of a few of the horses in my stable. No slouches here... The instrument on the bed: an 1860 Bay State Parlor guitar... real sweet. The others, left to right: 1976 Alvarez-Yairi DY96 (only 10 ever made) 1969 Gibson Super 400 1981 Ibanez George Benson (probably my favorite axe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by bigmikeinca Whao there Nellie !!!!!!!!!I am sure glad I can use my FIRST POST here to stand up to you ONLY A GIBSON IS GOOD ENOUGH guys and say I bought my Tokai LS200 from BUCKWILD !! And that is after looking at a lot of Gibson Les Pauls all over the Bay Area and eBay and frankly being VERY LET DOWN by what Gibson is putting out. EVEN the Custom Shop and Historics are sadly lacking in build quality. I'm 59 and what Gibson is cranking out these days is really starting to remind me of the Norlin Era crapola they were knocking out 30 years ago...Sorry but that LS320 is a real screamer and you guys should get off your high horses and actually play a Tokai before being so high and mighty to knock them as you have. And frankly the lower priced Tokais you talked about, well they're ok if you're 19 and have a job at McDonalds and can't afford a better instrument. But they're laminated tops or MIK with cheaper pots, pickups and such - no better than any EPI LP.The cheaper good Tokais are a thing of the past, just like guys that think some of the hot Ibanez hollowbodies from the late 70's early 80's should still cost under a Grand are living in the past... Folks have figured out that these are some really especially well made instruments that rival or BEAT the American brands by a lot... And I'm a guy that owns a number of high end American and Japanese guitars and there's a lot of Gibsons that are laughably bad...Usually I am more relaxed and easy to get along with but you G-lovers needed to have your ears pushed back some. Here's a shot of my LS200... Not bad eh ?? And through my old Blackfaced Deluxe Reverb and Dumble Pedal this thing is such a screamer !!!!!!!! I know the quality of MIJ Tokai's and don't dispute that. However you are HIGHLY underestimating the MIK Tokai's and sound like a cork sniffer. One has to work at McDonald's or be unable to afford a REAL MIJ in order to appreciate an MIK. That REAKS of bull{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AshboneWish Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 There are bids there for sure...but lemme tell ya..if i was willing to bump up that much cash, id sure as hell want the bookmatching to be a lot better...Probably the reason I like plain tops better!My 2 cents worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by batotman Its the top of the line MIJ Tokai. As high quality as you can get. they have some models that sell for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted April 20, 2006 Members Share Posted April 20, 2006 Originally posted by zenbu they have some models that sell for more. Well now they do but really are the specs any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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