Members MrSandMan Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 1952 telecaster non orig running gear. Signed tadeo 12-15-52 orig neck.."D" stamped early 51 or before. body has beautiful older refinish. Help me figure out what I have. Thanks! Is this a $500 / $5000 / or $15,000 guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FFStratophile Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 1. What does this mean: "on orig running gear"? 2. If the electronics and bridge are original, thats a 25000$+ guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ILikeGuitar Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FFStratophile Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 On the other hand, after consorting ebay, I'm not really sure. Vintage strats fetch 25000$, vintage teles... Not so much http://cgi.ebay.com/1952-Fender-Telecaster-w-mini-Humbucker-hardshell_W0QQitemZ330137006039QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38083QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/1952-53-Fender-Telecaster-Relic-Custom-Danny-Gatton_W0QQitemZ160130221611QQihZ006QQcategoryZ38083QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem BTW I'm not sure if number 2 is an actual '52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 If the electronics have been swapped out and it's not a factory refinish it probably is not worth all that much, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 Take pics of everything and put it on Ebay with a ridiculously high reserve.The high bid at the end will tell you what it's worth.If you then want to sell, relist with a reasonable reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 On the other hand, after consorting ebay, I'm not really sure. Vintage strats fetch 25000$, vintage teles... Not so muchhttp://cgi.ebay.com/1952-Fender-Telecaster-w-mini-Humbucker-hardshell_W0QQitemZ330137006039QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38083QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/1952-53-Fender-Telecaster-Relic-Custom-Danny-Gatton_W0QQitemZ160130221611QQihZ006QQcategoryZ38083QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemBTW I'm not sure if number 2 is an actual '52 Is the first auction a 52' non-reissue. Because the ad says; "52' Style Fender Telecaster" Who in the right mind would sell an 1952 Fender for $1000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members washburndean Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 Wow. Gorgeous guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mighty Coogna! Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 Sounds like you might have an old neck on a new body. Mainly because they didn't have 6 saddle bridges for early tele's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 Sounds like you might have an old neck on a new body.Mainly because they didn't have 6 saddle bridges for early tele's OUCH! That means the guitar doesn't hold much value. I have a customer who wants me to sell this guitar for him on commission. He wants 12k. I'm just skeptical if I can fetch him that kind of money for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mighty Coogna! Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 OUCH! That means the guitar doesn't hold much value. I have a customer who wants me to sell this guitar for him on commission. He wants 12k. I'm just skeptical if I can fetch him that kind of money for it. Your best bet it to take it all apart (carefully) and photograph every part, form all angles - then get George Gruhn to give you an appraisal. Probably the neck alone + the tuners if they are original will be the part to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silverfacechamp Posted June 23, 2007 Members Share Posted June 23, 2007 OUCH! That means the guitar doesn't hold much value. I have a customer who wants me to sell this guitar for him on commission. He wants 12k. I'm just skeptical if I can fetch him that kind of money for it. No way. You won't get even close to 12k on that, even if it's an original body but a later bridge assembly. A close friend of mine has a 1954 Tele that his dad bought brand new and didn't play much. Thing is dead nuts original, down to the case, tags, and receipt. However, his older brother painted over it with blue house paint when they were kids. David had it appraised by Dave Gruhn a few years back for about $3k as is, or $5500 with the blue paint taken off, which he said was a minor deal because of the type of paint and because the original finish was still there under the blue paint. $12k is waaaaaaaay high on a '52 tele with an unconfirmed provenance. EDIT: I think I'm wrong. There's one that sold on eBay not too long ago that you can still pull up....went for a little over $38k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geddins81 Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 No way. You won't get even close to 12k on that, even if it's an original body but a later bridge assembly. A close friend of mine has a 1954 Tele that his dad bought brand new and didn't play much. Thing is dead nuts original, down to the case, tags, and receipt. However, his older brother painted over it with blue house paint when they were kids. David had it appraised by Dave Gruhn a few years back for about $3k as is, or $5500 with the blue paint taken off, which he said was a minor deal because of the type of paint and because the original finish was still there under the blue paint. $12k is waaaaaaaay high on a '52 tele with an unconfirmed provenance. EDIT: I think I'm wrong. There's one that sold on eBay not too long ago that you can still pull up....went for a little over $38k. LOL...I was gettin excited till I saw your "edit"....if your buddy David wants to part with that ole nasty thing for for $5500 "as is", pm me. Seriously, if it's all original except the finish I'd do that in a minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg_In_Michigan Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 I see you are from Michigan. Take a trip to Lansing with the guitar and visit Elderly Instruments. www.elderly.com They are one of the most top notch guitar shops as well as vintage and used buyer/sellers around. They will tell you what it is and what it is worth. They will buy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 LOL...I was gettin excited till I saw your "edit"....if your buddy David wants to part with that ole nasty thing for for $5500 "as is", pm me. Seriously, if it's all original except the finish I'd do that in a minute! how much would give for mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bloolight Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 The vintage market never ceases to amaze me. Its amazing how seemingly trivial details can add or subtract 10 grand off the price of an instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 OUCH! That means the guitar doesn't hold much value. I have a customer who wants me to sell this guitar for him on commission. He wants 12k. I'm just skeptical if I can fetch him that kind of money for it. Damn your selling that guitar for someone and are comming here for a price? That dude is {censored}ed. Do him a favor and tell him your out of your league with selling it and to get it appraised by someone who knows what the deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TonightsElegy Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 there was an original '51 Nocaster for sale for over $100K ($AUD) the other month on ebay... not sure what it sold for in the end or even if it sold at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 Damn your selling that guitar for someone and are comming here for a price? That dude is {censored}ed. Do him a favor and tell him your out of your league with selling it and to get it appraised by someone who knows what the deal is. "your" is actually spelled you're. 'You are' for short = you're. comming = coming This is Harmony-Central, correct? A guitar forum *looks around* Shew--- thought I was in the wrong place there for a minute Okay, now that we have established grammar and figured out that I am, in fact, in the right forums.... can we get back to talking about guitars, instead of judging other peoples selling capabilities and/or poor grammar skilz. Even in law, Lawyers refer to previous cases to determine a particular outcome was, to gauge trial. Kind of the same thing I'm doing, gauging the market. An appraisal doesn't mean we'll get 'X' if the going market isn't demanding that particular guitar. (ATM) Just like an auto insurance appraisal doesn't mean that car is worth 'X' on the street market. ....nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 Around six months back, a Central London guitar shop had a gen-you-wine 54 Tele priced at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silverfacechamp Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 LOL...I was gettin excited till I saw your "edit"....if your buddy David wants to part with that ole nasty thing for for $5500 "as is", pm me. Seriously, if it's all original except the finish I'd do that in a minute! LOL.....I've got dibs on it before anybody else, but he'll never part with it. It was his dad's, and his dad died when he was a kid and didn't leave behind a whole lot. David had the appraisal done in the summer of 1999, I believe, which now that I think about it is closing in on a decade ago (doesn't seem that long...I hate getting older), so prices have obviously changed. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 "your" is actually spelled you're. 'You are' for short = you're. comming = coming This is Harmony-Central, correct? A guitar forum *looks around* Shew--- thought I was in the wrong place there for a minute Okay, now that we have established grammar and figured out that I am, in fact, in the right forums.... can we get back to talking about guitars, instead of judging other peoples selling capabilities and/or poor grammar skilz. Even in law, Lawyers refer to previous cases to determine a particular outcome was, to gauge trial. Kind of the same thing I'm doing, gauging the market. An appraisal doesn't mean we'll get 'X' if the going market isn't demanding that particular guitar. (ATM) Just like an auto insurance appraisal doesn't mean that car is worth 'X' on the street market. ....nevermind Funny stuff. Here is some real advice............ Go on over to the Telecaster Discussion Forum and ask them about it. Make sure you take a {censored}load of detailed pictures that they can look at. The one you have on here really doesnt help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted June 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 Funny stuff. Here is some real advice............ Go on over to the Telecaster Discussion Forum and ask them about it. Make sure you take a {censored}load of detailed pictures that they can look at. The one you have on here really doesnt help at all. Noted- I don't have the guitar here and that's not my picture... but I'll see about taking it in for an appraisal to that suggest place here in Michigan. Thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zepfan976 Posted June 24, 2007 Members Share Posted June 24, 2007 I'll give ya $500 in cash. Final offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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