Members White Falcon Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm guessing mid to late 90's, around the time PRS w/10 tops first became a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 as soon as one caveman assumed he was better than another caveman... I think it was on a Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members White Falcon Posted February 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 as soon as one caveman assumed he was better than another caveman... I think it was on a Wednesday. i'm talkin' bout geetars yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 i'm talkin' bout geetars yo hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Corksniffery has been alive and well since the 70s:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phishmonkey Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Corksniffery has been alive and well since the 70s:thu: They had viable excuses back then though, Norlin LPs and CBS strats. Wasn't really corksniffery as much as why buy a new fender when the olds ones are so much better. 80s was more about pointy guitars in neon shapes, so I would say 90s as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 They had viable excuses back then though, Norlin LPs and CBS strats. Wasn't really corksniffery as much as why buy a new fender when the olds ones are so much better. 80s was more about pointy guitars in neon shapes, so I would say 90s as well Back in the late 70s Les Pauls were considered old school dogs. You werent happening unless you had a BC Rich,Ibanez,Charvel/Jackson,Hamer,Kramer etc:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibentmywookie Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 when agiles were introduced to harmony central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 I agree with Phishmonkey. In the mid-70's, Fender and Gibson's quality control took a serious dive. Basically, both companies were trying to skimp on their product in order to increase their profit margins. At that point, players started looking for pre-CBS Fenders and pre-Norlin Gibsons in the belief that they were inherently superior to the current product. Not only that, there was a fair amount of copycatting involved: the era of the guitar hero meant that everyone wanted the same kind of guitar that Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Ace Frehley and Peter Frampton had. That meant vintage-style Fenders and Gibsons (the irony was that many players were seeking out lawsuit Ibanez, Tokai, Squier, Yamaha and Fernandes guitars, since they were better made than current Fenders and Gibsons!). Not only that, the rock n' roll generation hit their 30's and 40's and no longer had to worry about mortgages and putting their kids through school. That's when they started paying exorbitant prices for the icons of their teen years (50's era Harley-Davidsons, Cadillacs & guitars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 maybe it is because there are actually some really, really good guitars out there and some people happen to like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 In 1910 with the introduction of the first cork guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 maybe it is because there are actually some really, really good guitars out there and some people happen to like them. this just makes too much sense. i move to strike this from the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 yeah, you are right; it cant be that. Can it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Helldogg Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hmmm where to start? Let's see yuppies got old and scared of dying so instead of raping the economy with junk bonds and the environment with SUVs the had the ultimate mid-life crisis. EXPENSIVE guitars, instead of buying a sports car which screams in the hands of an older person, "Look I'm hip and still young". They in their colletive thinking thought, "Jimmy Page and Hendrix were my idols when I was young I'll try to revive my viagra enhanced penis with a guitar"! But the usual guitar wasn't enough, they have plenty of money and only expensive is the best, went all out to drive the prices of guitars through the roof. All the while still holding on the to the 80s sense of greed is good and expensive is better and investments are GOD. Its like evian water, it has to be better because its costs more. Also the guitar companies have wisely fed them with slogans "Only a Gibson is good enough" and the whole "lifestyle" thing. That to me is the corksniffer mentality, old yuppies living off their money, not good or bad, just the way the "ME generation" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phishmonkey Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 maybe it is because there are actually some really, really good guitars out there and some people happen to like them. People don't pay $500,000 for a guitar because its good. They very rarely pay $5000 because its that good. The reason vintage guitars (and saxophones among other things) are expensive is because of the collectors market. Which is a shame because a lot of those instruments are really good but most people will never get to play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 this just makes too much sense.i move to strike this from the record. it would have made more sense if it had anything whatsoever to do with the thread, which was about WHEN this corksniffing mentality started. my answer is the day there was more than one product for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 The real question here it seems is "How much money does one have to piss away money on gear" All the money in the world cant buy talent:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 collector's market = SNORKELDICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DavidMgT Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 it would have made more sense if it had anything whatsoever to do with the thread, which was about WHEN this corksniffing mentality started.my answer is the day there was more than one product for sale. It has everything to do with the thread, which I suspect is another "cheap vs expensive" thread which I now wish I never responded to. It started when some guitar manufacturers made better products than others. It isn't a mentality, some people can actually hear the difference between a good guitar and a bad one! (amazing isn't it??)Now I am by no means one to get a guitar simply because the name on the headstock, however there are some makers that simply make a superior instrument, and I am not talking about Fender and Gibson. if liking those instruments more than Agiles, Xaviers, Squires and Epiphones, or all the other affordable brands people like around here is cork-sniffery, well I guess I am a cork-sniffer. Now before feelings get hurt by the more sensitive among us, I do not think the aforementioned affordable guitars are bad instruments, they just are not as good as others (like Suhrs, Grosh, G&Ls, etc..). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 yeah, you are right; it cant be that. Can it?? CORKSNIFFER ALERT:eek::eek:--just kidding:badump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 CORKSNIFFER ALERT:eek: :eek: --just kidding:badump: you got me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 It has everything to do with the thread, which I suspect is another "cheap vs expensive" thread which I now wish I never responded to. It started when some guitar manufacturers made better products than others. It isn't a mentality, some people can actually hear the difference between a good guitar and a bad one! (amazing isn't it??)Now I am by no means one to get a guitar simply because the name on the headstock, however there are some makers that simply make a superior instrument, and I am not talking about Fender and Gibson. if liking those instruments more than Agiles, Xaviers, Squires and Epiphones, or all the other affordable brands people like around here is cork-sniffery, well I guess I am a cork-sniffer. Now before feelings get hurt by the more sensitive among us, I do not think the aforementioned affordable guitars are bad instruments, they just are not as good as others (like Suhrs, Grosh, G&Ls, etc..). IVe really tried to like G&L but I think there just ok,I wanted to buy a Gibby recently but they were just ok. When American quality returns to what it was Ill buy American brands when their prices are reflective of the quality. I really dont see that happening in the near future.I for one am sad:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rand-O-Monium Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 Dunno,I'm still practicing by sniffing Budweiser "Born On" dates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted February 11, 2008 Members Share Posted February 11, 2008 IVe really tried to like G&L but I think there just ok,I wanted to buy a Gibby recently but they were just ok. When American quality returns to what it was Ill buy American brands when their prices are reflective of the quality. I really dont see that happening in the near future.I for one am sad:cry: I am the same way with Gibson, I tried to like their products, but, like you with G&L, they aren't for me. You are right, getting a quality American guitar can be pricey, however for me it is worth it. The guitars I have all are instruments that I really connected with, and I see a substantial difference between them and all of the more affordable guitars I have owned. The tricky thing about the whole "this guitar is better than that one" issue, is that it is all really a matter of personal preference. I think we are all fortunate that there are plenty of manufacturers to chose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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