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  • AC30 vs Deluxe Reverb

    Used with a tele and occasionally a les paul. playing rock, blues, funk and soul in equal amounts
    Which one and why?
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  • #2
    I'm still not sold on the construction quality of the CC series. They're plagued with reverb issues, poor materials (eg. soft headed screws), and you must get the model with the blues, because the stock speakers don't sound good at all.

    I like both amps, but I prefer the tone of the Vox. Perhaps you might consider getting a used UK made AC-30.

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    • #3
      You need one of each at the end of the day so this should be "Which one do I buy first" thread.

      Deluxe for now...
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      • #4
        Since you said funk and soul, I'm gonna vote DR - for that sound the Fender DR and the Tele's just a classic combo

        The DR can also do rock and blues really well too.

        I love the Vox sound and a Tele and Vox is great blues/rock tone but I don't hear a lot of soul/funk in that combo

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        • #5
          Vox has all kinds of issues. Read the user reviews. The Fender sounds good, but for the same money I would look for a 70s silverface DR.

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          • #6
            One other thing, how do they compare volume wise? Obviously the AC30 will be a bit louder (but not much), but how much sooner does the DRRI break up if at all?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Planet Beef
              Vox has all kinds of issues. Read the user reviews.

              I agree that Fender sounds like a better match for funk/soul, but the Vox user reviews are a terrible place to look for info.

              - Most of the "issues" came down to a bad batch of preamp tubes, which have not only been sorted but upgraded.
              - The speaker leads have been lengthened, so tube changes aren't really an issue any longer.
              - The "OMG it won't turn on" cases have generally turned out to be pilot error - it likes a couple minutes of power-up before going to standby, and if you turn everything on all at once the green light won't come on for a good thirty seconds (more than long enough for an untrained GC salesman to flip his wig and think "this one's not working."
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              • #8
                Just make sure and get a DR reissue, better reliability and they still get that classic sound.

                For what you're talking, the DR is a no brainer for sure.
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                • #9
                  I'm amazed at the love for the DRRI. I'd have thought it would be much closer. Is this because I said funk and soul thus getting people to think Fender? If so, what would you use the Vox for?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vince
                    I'm amazed at the love for the DRRI. I'd have thought it would be much closer. Is this because I said funk and soul thus getting people to think Fender? If so, what would you use the Vox for?


                    The DRRI is currently in a very uppity phase around here. Lots of love for them lately.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wilbo26


                      The DRRI is currently in a very uppity phase around here. Lots of love for them lately.


                      Ahh. That explains a lot.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vince
                        I'm amazed at the love for the DRRI. I'd have thought it would be much closer. Is this because I said funk and soul thus getting people to think Fender? If so, what would you use the Vox for?


                        Primarily cause you put funk and soul first on your list and I can't see anyone who really wants to nail classic Stax, Motown, Musscle Shoals funk and soul sounds using a Vox

                        Also I think the DRRI is a better made amp the the Chineese made Vox.

                        Vox I'd use for Alt-Pop, Alt-Country, 60's english blues rock/classic rock

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by confused


                          Primarily cause you put funk and soul first on your list and I can't see anyone who really wants to nail classic Stax, Motown, Musscle Shoals funk and soul sounds using a Vox

                          Also I think the DRRI is a better made amp the the Chineese made Vox.

                          Vox I'd use for Alt-Pop, Alt-Country, 60's english blues rock/classic rock


                          Good points. Could the VOX do those sounds, or am I just being stupid?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Vince
                            Is this because I said funk and soul thus getting people to think Fender? If so, what would you use the Vox for?


                            It's because you said funk and soul. For those tight cleany-cleans, I just think Fender, though the DRRI might not do it at volume.

                            What would I use the Vox for? Everything else. Dear lord it sounds like a host of angels. A host of angels alternately lifting high to God their heavenly voices and nibbling my earlobes.

                            If you want chimey, "bell-like" cleans, rich cleans, dirty cleans, or raunchy crunch - anything but sparkly cleans really - the Vox is it. Granted, it's also twice the price, at least in the US - are the two amps closer price-wise in the UK? Because if they are, I'd hop all over the Vox.

                            (Note that I hardly ever touch 'verb, where Fender probably also has the edge. YMMV)

                            Per your question above, the Vox can cop a funk tone in a pinch (e.g., running clean it can get away with "Another Brick In The Wall Pt. 2" nicely), but overall it puts out a middier, richer clean vs. the the Fender's definitive, classically scooped, shiny/sparkly clean.

                            One thing you haven't asked about that might make a difference: the DRRI is pretty close to grab'n'go, and the AC30 is one heavy bitch of an amplifier.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by utterhack


                              It's because you said funk and soul. For those tight cleany-cleans, I just think Fender, though the DRRI might not do it at volume.

                              What would I use the Vox for? Everything else. Dear lord it sounds like a host of angels. A host of angels alternately lifting high to God their heavenly voices and nibbling my earlobes.

                              If you want chimey, "bell-like" cleans, rich cleans, dirty cleans, or raunchy crunch - anything but sparkly cleans really - the Vox is it. Granted, it's also twice the price, at least in the US - are the two amps closer price-wise in the UK? Because if they are, I'd hop all over the Vox.

                              (Note that I hardly ever touch 'verb, where Fender probably also has the edge. YMMV)

                              Per your question above, the Vox can cop a funk tone in a pinch (e.g., running clean it can get away with "Another Brick In The Wall Pt. 2" nicely), but overall it puts out a middier, richer clean vs. the the Fender's definitive, classically scooped, shiny/sparkly clean.

                              One thing you haven't asked about that might make a difference: the DRRI is pretty close to grab'n'go, and the AC30 is one heavy bitch of an amplifier.


                              You make some very good points here. I don't really want clean cleans. I want them to have a bit of grit to them. Your description of the AC30 is just what I want, but then the weight is an issue and if the DRRI gets dirtier and raunchier at volume, then that might work too.
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