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  • #31
    Originally posted by capnbringdown


    Hey, those include my posts!

    I do have a question (and this is not just for puretube) that I've asked but no one has ever answered: is it possible to make the tube zipper sustain the affected note instead of decaying back to the regular signal. Settings would be appreciated, too. I've been messing around for a while with it and haven't found it, yet.


    How dramatically does the resonance control affect sustain?
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    • #32
      Wow! Thanks Puretube!
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      • #33
        Originally posted by puretube
        Have No Fear, My Dear - All You Need Is Here:

        (and, err, Blungo: you got the edit button at your hand, to bring back the OLD "TUBEZIPPER LOUNGE" title... )



        I tried to, but i couldn't change the title of the thread. I could delete my post, or change the subject, but i didn't see a way to change the thread title. Or am i missing something?
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        • #34
          Originally posted by ck3


          How dramatically does the resonance control affect sustain?


          Sustain of the filtered part of the signal is virtually non-existant. The way I got around that was putting modulation before it, but it didn't really work like I wanted it. It just sounds weird hearing the wweirdness and then having things sustain to the regular, dirty signal.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by capnbringdown


            Sustain of the filtered part of the signal is virtually non-existant. The way I got around that was putting modulation before it, but it didn't really work like I wanted it. It just sounds weird hearing the wweirdness and then having things sustain to the regular, dirty signal.


            What do you think would happen if you added a compressor and/or overdrive to the equation? Is the sustain equally truncated in both sweep directions?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by ck3


              What do you think would happen if you added a compressor and/or overdrive to the equation? Is the sustain equally truncated in both sweep directions?


              Adding fuzz and compression either before or after yielded results in the frequency range of unholy. The additional noise and rf interference was terrible, not to mention that I kept getting results in the really high frequency range. Eventhough it doesn't do exactly what I want, it is still musical in its own way without the added fuzz and compression. Btw, I forgot to mention, or maybe you don't realize it (because I don't think its mentioned anywhere) but the device can self-oscilate, not in a way a delay can but that it will run on its own with the rigth settings and when nothing's being played, but that wasn't really what I'm looking for, though I don't know what you're looking for.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by capnbringdown


                Adding fuzz and compression either before or after yielded results in the frequency range of unholy. The additional noise and rf interference was terrible, not to mention that I kept getting results in the really high frequency range. Eventhough it doesn't do exactly what I want, it is still musical in its own way without the added fuzz and compression. Btw, I forgot to mention, or maybe you don't realize it (because I don't think its mentioned anywhere) but the device can self-oscilate, not in a way a delay can but that it will run on its own with the rigth settings and when nothing's being played, but that wasn't really what I'm looking for, though I don't know what you're looking for.


                Now you've really piqued my curiosity ... how does one go about controlling the pitch of the Tube Zipper's self oscillation? Is there some sort of setting that is on the verge of oscillation that allows for this feature to be triggered and supressed effectively?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ck3


                  Now you've really piqued my curiosity ... how does one go about controlling the pitch of the Tube Zipper's self oscillation? Is there some sort of setting that is on the verge of oscillation that allows for this feature to be triggered and supressed effectively?


                  I haven't found anything on the verge of self-oscilation. I've found things that are a bit more subtle, and I use the term "subtle" loosely here. Though cranking the filter section all the way up and setting it on down tron or trill depending on your preference will make it go. Even though no notes are being played, twirling the volume knob on my guitar will change the pitch. If you then pick a note, you can get it doing what it usually does.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by capnbringdown


                    I haven't found anything on the verge of self-oscilation. I've found things that are a bit more subtle, and I use the term "subtle" loosely here. Though cranking the filter section all the way up and setting it on down tron or trill depending on your preference will make it go. Even though no notes are being played, twirling the volume knob on my guitar will change the pitch. If you then pick a note, you can get it doing what it usually does.




                    That sounds awesome ... and I'll bet that, with a long dealy and some cavernous reverb, this could soudn like the coming of armageddon ...



                    ... but how similar are the regular frequency sweeps to an envelope phaser?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by joe_lechuza
                      Erm.... I just remembered that have some settings from the last lounge.... I pasted them into a notepad....

                      do you want them?

                      if so....

                      edit - open the file in notepad, when it opens in a web browser, its like an essay by Captain Nonsense.


                      I had my first car accident in years rushing here to the lounge. Haste makes waste. But I'm okay and the Tube Zipper is fine.

                      A couple more sounds featuring down envelope and self-oscillation -- tweaks on the first setting. First up is "Monkey call" cuz it sounds like a monkey call; with reverb it sounds like a monkey in the jungle without reverb it sounds like a monkey at the zoo -- works well with single notes.

                      Res - 5
                      Freq - 2
                      Sens - 11
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 7
                      Gain - 9

                      Down / Trill


                      Next is "Boston baby" cuz of its wah with the characteristic Bay State vowel sound added at the end of the note for no good reason.

                      Res - 5
                      Freq - 12
                      Sens - 11
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 7
                      Gain - 9

                      Down / Tron

                      "cotton ball in mouth" -- not only does it sound like you have a cotton ball in your mouth, but you also have to struggle (like you would if you actually had a cotton ball in your mouth) to get the trailing synth sound out by striking hard and deliberate.

                      Res - 1
                      Freq - 8
                      Sens - 12
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Up / Tron


                      Next is "Cartman" which is reminiscent of Cartman, especially when he's talking to his mom, as when recently he wanted her to sign him up for the Special Olympics

                      Res - 1
                      Freq - 10
                      Sens - 12
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Up / Trill



                      last for today is "leaky faucet" -- this really only works with reverb. As a matter of fact, all these setting sound best with reverb.

                      Res - 3
                      Freq - 8
                      Sens - 3
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Up / Tron


                      Tweak Res, Freq, and Sens to taste

                      This works both in down / tron or down / trill though I prefer the down / tron. Like a lot of the down envelope settings, a ringing note or chord will prevent subequent notes from getting processed -- notes need space. Though this one doesn't feature self-oscillation, the same thing holds. But instead of playing slowly or letting the notes ring and do their thing, I just lifted off after every note and the result was a kind of chirpy little run that reminded me of a moulin rouge version of chinese music, that I call "chinese music torture (on a german)" -- the 'on a german' part comes from the "owwha" vowel sound at the end of the note: chirpy happy... pain.

                      Res - 2:30
                      Freq - 3
                      Sens - 3
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Down / Tron

                      Here are a couple variations of 'standard' envelope filter. The first is more a rubber band snap -- bright; the second sounds a lot like a wah - deep (gotta be careful how far back you turn the Freq or you'll lose the effect totally and enter into other territory)

                      rubber band snap:

                      Res - 1 to 5 (higher=brighter with more snap)
                      Freq - 10
                      Sens - 1
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Up / Tron


                      wah:

                      Res - 1
                      Freq - 9
                      Sens - 12
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 9
                      Gain - 9

                      Up / Tron


                      Overloaded Bubblegum Machine


                      Res - 5.30
                      Freq - 7
                      Sens - 5.30
                      Vol - 1
                      Drv - 12
                      Gain - 9

                      Up/Trill (more "civilised" with Tron)
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                      • #41
                        ^^^^

                        hehe, the last setting on there is the one I found


                        Anyway... have any of you guys used NOS tubes in it?

                        Does it improve the overall performance?
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                        • #42
                          hehe - those settings looked too stupid in Notepad... now everybody can watch`em.

                          NOS is OK, and a personal view of "better" or not...
                          (this mainly concerns the distortion part)

                          I don`t recommend other types ,
                          coz you may loose a whole lot of the filter`s performance
                          (plus some of the overdriveability)
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                          • #43
                            Well, I'd like to make the distortion a little less... "bees in tinfoil"; even with an EQ I cant stop it from being so nasal. However, it works well in the synth dive setup after an EQ, especially when boosting the signal.


                            I plan to get a Super Chile Picoso sometime in the future; will this send the Tube Zipper crazy?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by capnbringdown


                              Sustain of the filtered part of the signal is virtually non-existant. The way I got around that was putting modulation before it, but it didn't really work like I wanted it. It just sounds weird hearing the wweirdness and then having things sustain to the regular, dirty signal.


                              I found that boosting the signal helps the sustain of the filtered part, something like an EQ works ok, I'm waiting for the cash to buy a SCP soon..
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by joe_lechuza


                                I found that boosting the signal helps the sustain of the filtered part, something like an EQ works ok, I'm waiting for the cash to buy a SCP soon..


                                So you used an eq to boost the signal before it? I've been trying to boost it with either a compressor or a fuzz or distortion pedal with a boost and so far, I haven't got good results.
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