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  • #16
    Have No Fear, My Dear - All You Need Is Here:

    (and, err, Blungo: you got the edit button at your hand, to bring back the OLD "TUBEZIPPER LOUNGE" title... )

    once again I had to edit away signatures and stuff, otherwise the
    post`d be too long...
    let`s start with the first Lounge, PART I :

    Harmony Central User Forums > Guitar > Effects > Tube Zipper lounge

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    www.pure-tube-technology.com

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    • #17
      on we go - first Lounge PART II

      hookstrapped
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      This works both in down / tron or down / trill though I prefer the down / tron. Like a lot of the down envelope settings, a ringing note or chord will prevent subequent notes from getting processed -- notes need space. Though this one doesn't feature self-oscillation, the same thing holds. But instead of playing slowly or letting the notes ring and do their thing, I just lifted off after every note and the result was a kind of chirpy little run that reminded me of a moulin rouge version of chinese music, that I call "chinese music torture (on a german)" -- the 'on a german' part comes from the "owwha" vowel sound at the end of the note: chirpy happy... pain.

      Res - 2:30
      Freq - 3
      Sens - 3
      Vol - 1
      Drv - 9
      Gain - 9

      Down / Tron


      05-17-2004 025 AM



      blungo2
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      All very interesting, but can it get FUNKY?

      05-17-2004 02:49 AM



      jcn37203
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      Registered: Oct 2003
      Location: Nashville
      Posts: 2054

      quote:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Originally posted by hookstrapped
      "chinese music torture (on a german)"
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



      I think I now have a name for my first album.


      05-17-2004 02:54 AM



      hookstrapped
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      quote:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Originally posted by blungo2
      All very interesting, but can it get FUNKY?
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



      Oh, sure! It does regular envelope filter really nicely. Compared to my mini Q-tron which would sound good only over a limited range -- like a fifth and sound all muffled beyond, the Tube Zipper sounds clear with sparkly harmonics over a very wide range on a given setting. Very tweakable and fine tunable around that funky chord whacking thing.

      05-17-2004 052 AM



      blungo2
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      quote:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Originally posted by hookstrapped


      Oh, sure! It does regular envelope filter really nicely. Compared to my mini Q-tron which would sound good only over a limited range -- like a fifth and sound all muffled beyond, the Tube Zipper sounds clear with sparkly harmonics over a very wide range on a given setting. Very tweakable and fine tunable around that funky chord whacking thing.
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



      Hmmmmm, very interesting...
      Thanks!

      05-17-2004 055 AM



      puretube
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      Posts: 423
      b*mp

      05-24-2004 07:16 PM



      jcn37203
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      Location: Nashville
      Posts: 2054
      Who just sold a bunch of crap on Ebay and now has the money to buy a TZ?

      Would that be me?

      I'm not sure, let me go check my PayPall account....

      Yep. Its me.

      Now I just gotta wait for the 189 deal again.

      06-01-2004 01:19 AM



      hookstrapped
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      What's up with Music123 ebaying?

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22669&item=3726760 790&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

      06-01-2004 020 AM



      jcn37203
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      Registered: Oct 2003
      Location: Nashville
      Posts: 2054
      Yeah, I saw that too. Pretty weird. Maybe they have a bunch of backstock they need to get rid of.


      BTW - if this last item I have sells, I'll have enough for a TZ plus a complete retube for my amp.

      I love Ebay.

      quote:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Originally posted by hookstrapped
      What's up with Music123 ebaying?

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22669&item=3726760 790&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      06-01-2004 03:45 AM
      www.pure-tube-technology.com

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      • #18
        puretube keeps the flame alive, you RAWK

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        • #19
          and on, again - this time with second Lounge - PART I :

          Harmony Central User Forums > Guitar > Effects > Tube Zipper Lounge

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          jcn37203
          Senior Member

          Registered: Oct 2003
          Location: Nashville
          Posts: 2370
          Tube Zipper Lounge



          Damn, it appears our original lounge was bulldozed.

          Anyways, hey Hookstrapped. I lost the paper that came with my TZ. Can you post the suggested settings if you get a chance?

          Particularly, I'm looking for the rubber band one.

          And lets keep this baby alive this time!

          EDIT: PS - anyone other than Hook should feel free to post the settings, if you have them. He's just the only guy I know of who definitely has them.

          I'll re-post my personal faves that I've found later on.

          Last edited by jcn37203 on 07-01-2004 at 11:59 PM

          07-01-2004 11:57 PM



          ian87
          Senior Member

          Registered: Jun 2003
          Location: Oakland, CA
          Posts: 3355
          present!
          my personal fave setting:

          guitar in input
          output to amp
          footswitch to on

          play gtr and spin knobs until bovines return to their residence.


          07-02-2004 122 AM



          frankn
          Senior Member

          Registered: Oct 2003
          Location: Los Angeles.
          Posts: 1492
          what is this pedal all about?
          I have the Wiggler from
          the same series and like it.

          07-02-2004 124 AM



          jcn37203
          Senior Member

          Registered: Oct 2003
          Location: Nashville
          Posts: 2370
          Lots of clips h
          ere. So you can see what its all about.

          And I agree with ian87 about the jam & twirl approach. Its just that it gets so damn many different sounds, and the knobs are so sensitive, that if you dont keep up with your settings, you may never get back to what you liked.

          I mean, six knobs and two toggles... thats a whole hell of a lot of permutations.

          The other day I was lamenting the fact that my board was too big to reasonably gig with, and I decided that armed with my ED-1 and Tube Zipper, I could easily lay waste to pretty much any stage I stood on.


          07-02-2004 127 AM



          wembleyisgreen
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          can you guys tell me how this thing compares to something like the mutron 3's? or, how does it compare to the lovetone meatball or qtron? is it a true envelope filter, meaning does it really do all the filtering or is it just a noise box?


          07-02-2004 12:17 AM



          ian87
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          Registered: Jun 2003
          Location: Oakland, CA
          Posts: 3355

          quote:
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Originally posted by wembleyisgreen
          can you guys tell me how this thing compares to something like the mutron 3's? or, how does it compare to the lovetone meatball or qtron? is it a true envelope filter, meaning does it really do all the filtering or is it just a noise box?
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


          she's a real env filter. hopefully its creator, M. Puretube, will grace us w/ his presence and explain.

          07-02-2004 12:23 AM



          frankn
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          Registered: Oct 2003
          Location: Los Angeles.
          Posts: 1492
          This place + you bastids + the TZ = GAS.

          3 clips in and I'm hooked.


          I usually don't like EHX peds but these peds in this series look like winners.

          07-02-2004 12:36 AM



          wembleyisgreen
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          Registered: Jun 2004
          Location:
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          can you do all those sweeping radiohead ok computer filtering?
          i think thats a meatball, but that is the sound i am after, also how is the bypass?

          07-02-2004 12:46 AM



          jcn37203
          Senior Member

          Registered: Oct 2003
          Location: Nashville
          Posts: 2370
          Ignore my request for the factory suggested settings, I found the paper.

          I shall now repost my little setting I found, which sounds funny and cool to me.

          I think I named it "Untying the knot" or something like that, because it makes me think of a knot coming untied.

          env - down.
          mode - trill

          Resonance - 5:30
          Frequency - 12:15
          Sensitivity - 110
          Volume - 110
          Drive - 110
          Gain - 90

          Works best with humbuckers, or high output single coils.

          07-02-2004 01:24 AM



          hookstrapped
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          Yeah, I was looking for it the other day HC doesn't keep as old a history of dormant threads as they used to.


          Thanks for reviving it. BTW, the sheet has a mistake on the Rubber Band setting -- it has it as Down envelope but it's Up envelope.

          For me, the Rubber Band is found within the basic auto-wah setting, and you get more or less rubber band snap by adjusting the Res.

          Res 2-4
          Freq 9-10
          Sens 1
          Vol (whatever)
          Drv 9
          Gain 9

          Up / Tron or Trill

          07-02-2004 01:43 AM



          hookstrapped
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          I can't really answer all the questions bu the ones I can:

          The bypass is fine. Clean, no suckage and it works without having the power to the TZ connected (don't want to wear out those tubes).

          Not familar with Mutron or Meatball. Had a mini Q-tron and this thing sounds so much better on your basic envelope setting and has a wider range that it affects (no small width HP, LP, BP), plus it has all the wild down envelope stuff and synthy stuff plus it has tube distortion.

          07-02-2004 01:48 AM



          puretube
          Member

          Registered: May 2003
          Location: Franconia, suffern Germany
          Posts: 447
          old TZ-lounge

          quote:
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Originally posted by ian87

          she's a real env filter. hopefully its creator, M. Puretube, will grace us w/ his presence and explain.
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

          EDIT JAN. 30TH. 2005:

          WHAT IS FOLLOWING AT THIS POINT,
          IS THE REVIVAL OF THE FIRST LOUNGE,
          I.E.: WHAT YOU JUST READ...
          www.pure-tube-technology.com

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          • #20
            IT'S ALIIIIIIIVE!!!!
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            • #21
              continuing with second Lounge, PART II :

              hookstrapped
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              Mr. puretube, thank you so much!


              __________________
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              07-02-2004 12:24 PM



              puretube
              Member

              Registered: May 2003
              Location: Franconia, suffern Germany
              Posts: 447

              welcome - of course I was very pleased/flattered with this thread.

              only sorry, the temp. files didn`t show the linx and pics;
              so here we go one more time:


              07-02-2004 12:59 PM



              jcn37203
              Senior Member

              Registered: Oct 2003
              Location: Nashville
              Posts: 2370
              So, puretube... whats the story? Do you work for E~H? Did you really design/make the TZ?

              If so... wow man. Rock on witcha bad self.

              Any funny stories about TZ as a child? Pictures?

              What brought about the idea for the TZ?


              07-02-2004 028 PM



              wembleyisgreen
              Junior Member

              Registered: Jun 2004
              Location:
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              pure tube how does the tz compare to the other eh filters like qtron qtron plus, can it do allt he mutron things like them? how do they compare? thanks


              07-02-2004 02:17 PM



              hookstrapped
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              Mr. puretube

              I got another question for you. One thing I love about the TZ compared to, say, the mini Q-tron I had, is the superior sound quality AND how you get that sound quality over the whole fretboard. The TZ doesn't have a LP/BP/HP selector -- it doesn't seem to care where you play; you get funky crazy goodness wherever. What's up with that?


              07-02-2004 02:27 PM



              jcn37203
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              Registered: Oct 2003
              Location: Nashville
              Posts: 2370
              Mr. Puretube, if the TZ were a breakfast cereal - which cereal would it be?

              I say it would be Cap'n Crunch with Crunchberries, but Hookstrapped says it would be Grape Nuts.


              07-02-2004 031 PM



              puretube
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              Location: Franconia, suffern Germany
              Posts: 447

              quote:
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Originally posted by jcn37203
              So, puretube... whats the story? Do you work for E~H? Did you really design/make the TZ?

              If so... wow man. Rock on witcha bad self.

              Any funny stories about TZ as a child? Pictures?

              What brought about the idea for the TZ?
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



              more later - giggin` tonite & tomorrow, while I had to fight a virus on my other PC today...

              just this: I`m a freelancer, E-H got a licence from me to manufactur any thing I designe(-d).

              So in the end-effect, I work for them (but not as employee).

              On my list so far: "HOT TUBES", "TUBE ZIPPER", "WIGGLER",
              "WORM", "PULSAR" (new one).

              lotsa new stuff on my workbench...

              07-02-2004 05:58 PM



              jcn37203
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              Location: Nashville
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              bump


              07-03-2004 06:12 PM



              jcn37203
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              keep the dream alive, people...

              07-06-2004 04:41 PM



              puretube
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              Proud `n` Stroud....

              proud Tube Zipper designer with Peter Stroud (right),
              guitarist for Sheryl Crow and many, many others,
              who got 2 "zippers" in his rig...

              07-10-2004 08:25 PM



              wednesdaysworse
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              Location: Chicago
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              Anyone interested in buying one?
              Check my sig.
              PM me.


              07-10-2004 106 PM
              www.pure-tube-technology.com

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jcn37203
                IT'S ALIIIIIIIVE!!!!


                I just HAD to do it for you, hookstrapped, Blungo, Gappie and the others...

                hard work, though - took me hours yesterday to go thru 160GB -

                now I know, why it was good to save the
                entire content of the old harddisk - incl. the old windows-file with the Temporary Internet Files...

                BACKUP YOUR FILES OR GO BALD !!!

                (old saying from Aron`s DIY Stompbox Forum...)

                keep it up fellas - I`ll try to fill in some of the old pics,
                so the TUBE ZIPPER LOUNGE will re-gain some color...

                www.pure-tube-technology.com

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                • #23
                  OOOPS - got distracted - following is a missing part -

                  from the first Lounge - PART III :

                  Harmony Central User Forums > Guitar > Effects > Tube Zipper lounge

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                  • #24
                    and on and on with second Lounge - PART III

                    Harmony Central User Forums > Guitar > Effects > Tube Zipper Lounge

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                    • #25
                      getting it on - second Lounge - PART IV :

                      Pages (3):
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                      • #26
                        ...found some formerly missing links and inserted them here, into
                        here we go - second Lounge - PART V :

                        Harmony Central User Forums > Guitar > Effects > Tube Zipper Lounge


                        jcn37203
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                        Registered: Oct 2003
                        Location: Nashville
                        Posts: 4298
                        Hmmmm...

                        Well, sometimes I have to fiddle with the volume knobs, but I rarely turn it much above halfway.

                        That does sound fishy.

                        You might try boosting input gain as well.

                        Or, just try plugging directly into the TZ and then the amp and see if it is something else in the chain.

                        10-06-2004 06:53 PM



                        joe_lechuza
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                        Registered: Sep 2004
                        Location: Nottingham, England
                        Posts: 21
                        Even with input gain on full and the volume at about 100 on the pedal with nothing else in the chain, it's pretty damn quiet, almost like a really bad tone suck from a pedal without power.

                        I have to have the volume at about 30 for it to match the volume with the pedal switched off.

                        I can't seen to get it do like a normal autowah either. The only sort of effect that seems to work well is the synth dive....... and thats with the fuzz pedal boosting it. This is a bit sucky.

                        10-06-2004 072 PM



                        jcn37203
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                        Registered: Oct 2003
                        Location: Nashville
                        Posts: 4298
                        Wow man, that definitely sounds wrong.

                        I'm really sorry.

                        Did you get it new? If so, I'd return it asap.

                        Otherwise, maybe pt can suggest a way to get it repaired?




                        quote:
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Originally posted by joe_lechuza
                        Even with input gain on full and the volume at about 100 on the pedal with nothing else in the chain, it's pretty damn quiet, almost like a really bad tone suck from a pedal without power.

                        I have to have the volume at about 30 for it to match the volume with the pedal switched off.

                        I can't seen to get it do like a normal autowah either. The only sort of effect that seems to work well is the synth dive....... and thats with the fuzz pedal boosting it. This is a bit sucky.
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        10-06-2004 07:11 PM



                        joe_lechuza
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                        Registered: Sep 2004
                        Location: Nottingham, England
                        Posts: 21
                        ffs, everything I buy has to be sent back. It's like I'm living on an old pagan burial site.

                        10-06-2004 07:17 PM



                        puretube
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                        Location: Franconia, suffern Germany
                        Posts: 490
                        s.th. is wrong.

                        maybe a wire/connection to one of the (master or input) pots
                        came loose with that "explosion"???

                        bring it to the shop and get another (if possible).

                        10-06-2004 07:17 PM





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                        • #27
                          nice job, ton. guess when i have time next week i will try all the settings in this thread. a small bumb to keep it up.

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                          • #28
                            well, it seems like the neccessary "mean time between bumps"
                            for a thread on this forum has dropped from about 3 months (about a year ago), to 4 or 5 weeks, before it falls out.

                            That`s what I like about some other fora: it stays ...
                            (those got less traffic, though).

                            BTW: IMHO, the Lounge is back for 100% (minus the pics),
                            except 2 or 3 "bumps" in november & december, that didn`t have much informative content...

                            www.pure-tube-technology.com

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by puretube
                              well, it seems like the neccessary "mean time between bumps"
                              for a thread on this forum has dropped from about 3 months (about a year ago), to 4 or 5 weeks, before it falls out.

                              That`s what I like about some other fora: it stays ...
                              (those got less traffic, though).

                              BTW: IMHO, the Lounge is back for 100% (minus the pics),
                              except 2 or 3 "bumps" in november & december, that didn`t have much informative content...



                              Hey, those include my posts!

                              I do have a question (and this is not just for puretube) that I've asked but no one has ever answered: is it possible to make the tube zipper sustain the affected note instead of decaying back to the regular signal. Settings would be appreciated, too. I've been messing around for a while with it and haven't found it, yet.
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                              • #30
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