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    The Jca 20h Owners Club and Mod Thread

    Yes I do custom mods/parts lists/Mod other amps, pm me for more info/pricing.

    The purpose of this thread is going to be for discussing Mods to the jet city 20H, or any other topic pertaining to the JCA model 20H.

    The stock 20h

    The stock 20h is a 2 el84, 3 12ax7 amp featuring a soldano slo Treble, Middle, Bass tone stack with a Presence control in the Power Amp. Two 8 ohm output taps and one 16 ohm output tap. Excellent price for an amp with no unneeded frills.

    Sound Clips

    Guitar World

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdI7GuVOXCU

    A Real owner

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zck6uFzZl8A

    Stock Schematic



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  • #2
    Other Mods

    Dues'(or should I say vh4's now?) mods

    Pending permission from duese i think that i can post his schematic in this thread, for now I'll post a link to his thread. His mod were the bassis for my mods (minus the "voicing switch", thats mine).His mods are

    Choke,depth, Channel switch (with pot or switches to controll the gain), an effects loop(no he will not give away the schematic to it), a master for each channel, a "global master and various resistor and capacitor differences.

    Here is the link to his topic with the schematic to his mods on page 3

    http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...-for-299/page3

    This is dues's schematic



    All credit for this goes to dues (VH4 here on the forum)

    Here is a brief explanation and discussion of the depth pot.

    http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...uctions-please

    Sound Clips

    Les Paul

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hchMfnL3BJo

    Strat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdBn83FQYAE

    Dave Friedman's mods

    Dave friedman of Rack Systems Inc. is offering his "Brown eye" mod for the jca 20H. I seem to recall it costing about 300$ and an additional 50$ for a "saturation" switch (a Jose master volume).

    Sound Clips

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lTmRSI1n4Y

    Depth Mod

    This mod is depicted in dues' mod.







    Quote Originally Posted by ledvedder
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    I guess it doesn't matter where the wires go on the pot? VH4's instruction says to solder the 4n7 cap to the left and middle pins of the pot. You have the 4n7 cap to the left and right pins.




    Works both ways

    This is how I wire it



    how duese wires it



    an here's an extra little diagram to help those who are more visually inclined.



    I have no clue who some people are removing the nfb wire from the pcb and making more trouble for themselves.
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    • vintonalan
      vintonalan commented
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      I did this mod with a 500K Bourns pot out of a cry baby volume pedal. Worked well! Gave some low end balls to the amp it was missing. And I agree with something I read along the way, just lift the yellow wire off the output txformer and go to one side of the pot with cap and take the other side back to the 16 ohm jack +.

      2 wire mod + one hole drilling. I happened to mount mine on the back panel just to the left of the speaker outs.

       


    • Graunke
      Graunke commented
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      I'd like to do the 'depth' mod to my 22H, is the schematic similar, or does someone have one they can share? I tried to skim through all 65 pages, but did not see it. Only the one for the 20H


  • #3
    I haven't done any mods myself to mine, but I just got mine back from Dave Friedman today with the brown eye mod and a saturation switch. It sounds killer. Depending on the difficulty, I am interested in possibly adding an FX loop to mine down the road, but I don't know how do-able that would be for a noob like myself
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    • #4






      Quote Originally Posted by spawnofthesith
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      I haven't done any mods myself to mine, but I just got mine back from Dave Friedman today with the brown eye mod and a saturation switch. It sounds killer. Depending on the difficulty, I am interested in possibly adding an FX loop to mine down the road, but I don't know how do-able that would be for a noob like myself




      Thats a very asked for mod, All thought it doesnt appeal to me personaly, I am willing to investigate. With a schem and soldering iron (and some soldering know how) it should be very doable. Hey you dont mind if I put your friedman modded video on here as a sound clip right?
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      • #5
        Yeah sure, go ahead
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        • #6






          Quote Originally Posted by spawnofthesith
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          Yeah sure, go ahead




          thanks man.
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          • #7
            Damn I really want one of these now.



            But I have something already that's so similar.
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            • #8
              Oh ya let the games begin. I originally got a JCA50H and it was a lemon and the guys at JCA were great and getting to taken care of. In the mean while I bought a JCA20H from Music123 new for $209.00 Killer. It gets here Tuesday the 6th. My tubes have already arrived.

              2-JJEL84

              2-JJ12ax7 standard

              1-JJ12AX7 balanced

              1-JJ12AT7 standard

              1-JJ12AX7 HighGain

              1-TungSol 12AX7

              1-EH 12AX7



              Going to mess with that for a minute and soon as I can find a Series Loop mod I am modd'ing



              Thanks for starting the thread I hope that this takes off so an arm and a leg is not spent for mods and you can learn something. I love DIY. Amp to this point are really the only thing that I have yet to touch.....I can't wait..



              Did you post on the JCA FB page?



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              • #9






                Quote Originally Posted by theDogger
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                Oh ya let the games begin. I originally got a JCA50H and it was a lemon and the guys at JCA were great and getting to taken care of. In the mean while I bought a JCA20H from Music123 new for $209.00 Killer. It gets here Tuesday the 6th. My tubes have already arrived.

                2-JJEL84

                2-JJ12ax7 standard

                1-JJ12AX7 balanced

                1-JJ12AT7 standard

                1-JJ12AX7 HighGain

                1-TungSol 12AX7

                1-EH 12AX7



                Going to mess with that for a minute and soon as I can find a Series Loops mod I am modd'ing



                Thanks for starting the thread I hope that this takes off so an arm and a leg is not spent for mods and you can learn something. I love DIY. Amp to this point are really the only thing that I have yet to touch.....I can't wait..



                Did you post on the JCA FB page?



                theDogger




                I should post on their face book.

                What im running in mine that I thought sounds best is a jj long plate in v1 a sovtek russian tube in v2 and the chinese sino in v3.

                Edit:I just posted it on their facebook......only to realize that some one beat me to the punch.......
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                • #10
                  Good morning! I will try to check here occassionally and offer assistance when I can...
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                  • #11






                    Quote Originally Posted by jet city amps
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                    Good morning! I will try to check here occassionally and offer assistance when I can...




                    lol Hey Doug is it alright if I post the official schematic on this here?

                    Thanks for supporting man.
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                    • #12
                      So in! I want to know how different tubes affect the JCA20H.
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                      • #13
                        I prefer to give the schematic to customers who buy the amp. that seems fair to me, but, what did you have in mind?
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                        • #14
                          OK guys considering making a section dedicated to cosmetic mods (baffles + other things that people have done, like leds).







                          Quote Originally Posted by Yarbicus
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                          So in! I want to know how different tubes affect the JCA20H.




                          I'll try to add a tubes tasting section if i can get more people to give some feed back on what tubes they have tried and where. Dogger give us a full report after you get yours.









                          Quote Originally Posted by jet city amps
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                          I prefer to give the schematic to customers who buy the amp. that seems fair to me, but, what did you have in mind?




                          Ok, Doug, I'll respect your decision and not post the schematic on here, all though I think it would be a resource to have in this thread. Can you fill me in on the baffles situation (what is offered)? Also need info on the "jet packs" if you guys are even considering doing those any more.
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                          • #15
                            I made a few low volume recorded clips just now of mine showcasing 3 fairly different sounds http://www.netmusicians.org/index.ph...0City%20JCA20H
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