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  • Copyright 101...before you ask, or POST, please take a look!

    <P><A href="http://www.copyright.gov/faq.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">copyright faq </A><BR /> <BR /> Thanks BlueStrat...this was long over due.<IMG class="inlineimg" src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" /><BR /> <BR /> <STRONG>NO</STRONG>, mailing yourself a copy doesn't work<BR /> Yes, it costs money<BR /> Yes, you can download the Forms<BR /> <STRONG>NO</STRONG>, it isn't registered with ASCAP/BMI etc. when you copyright<BR /> <STRONG>NO</STRONG>, it isn't published<BR /> Yes, you can register online (and save $10[$35 vs $45])<BR /> Yes, you can register multiple songs as a collection to save on the 'per filing' fees<BR /> Also, check this thread, it may clarify some issues for you regarding using copyrighted materials.. <A href="http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=1679637" target="_blank">http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=1679637</A><BR /> <BR /> If yo uwant to use someone else's material, you might start with the Harry Fox Agency...<BR /> <BR /> What did I miss?<IMG class="inlineimg" src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" /></P>
    <P>ah, yes...on a side note, those of you have put cover songs on your CD, got your mechanical license squared away wiht the HFA...and then shot a video...did you remember to get a sync license for the video use?</P>

    From DIY Musician: Here’s 5 points of copyright that every musician should know:

    1. Your Exclusive Rights
    As a copyright owner, you get six exclusive rights. You alone can create copies of your song, distribute it, make derivatives, display it, and perform the composition and sound recording. (We’ll look at the difference between the composition and sound recording later.) If someone else wants to do any of these things, they need to get permission from you, and, in most cases, provide some sort of payment.
    2. How to Get Copyright Protection
    So now that you know what the rights granted by copyright are, how do you get them? You don’t actually need to register your song with the Federal copyright office to own the copyright (at least in the US). The moment you put your song into tangible form – written down or recorded – you automatically get the six exclusive rights we just looked at.
    3. Is Registration Necessary?
    So if you already get all your rights just by writing a song down, why waste time (and money) on a federal registration? If you sue for infringement of your music, a federal registration with the US Copyright Office entitles you to statutory damages and attorney fees. We won’t get into the technical points of statutory damages, but more times than not, it will be more financially beneficial for you to ask for statutory damages in the event of copyright infringement.
    On top of that, a federal registration is the best proof of ownership you can get. The “poorman’s copyright” has historically been very popular among musicians. By sending a copy of the music to yourself via mail and leaving the package sealed, you essentially date the creation by the federal postmark on the letter. While this is better than no evidence, a federal registration holds much more weight in court.
    4. Infringement
    There is no rule in copyright law that sets a minimum standard for infringement. This means that even a five second sample could be considered infringement. Using a popular song, or the “hook” of a song will put you at greater risk of infringing than using a lesser-known song. However, it’s best to play it safe and get permission for any copyrighted material you use.
    Another point worth noting, you cannot copyright chord progressions or drum beats for the most part. Imagine how difficult it would be to write if someone had the basic rock drum beat or the I, IV, V chord progression copyrighted!
    5. Two Different Kinds of Copyright
    Everyone knows about the composition copyright. That’s the one you get for actually writing the song; it protects the arrangement of melody and lyrics. However, there’s another one that protects the unique arrangement of sounds – the sound recording copyright. The composition copyright is owned by the songwriter and the sound recording copyright is owned by the recording artist, so if you write and record your songs you’ve got two copyrights under your belt.
    A song can have an infinite number of sound recording copyrights, but only one composition copyright. Think of it this way: if you wrote and recorded a song you would have a composition copyright and a sound recording copyright. If you recorded an acoustic version of that same song, you would have a second sound recording copyright. In the same way, when someone covers your song, they create their own sound recording copyright for the cover. They will, however, still need to get permission to use the composition copyright.
    Last edited by daddymack; 08-29-2014, 07:08 AM.
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  • #2
    what about the UK? is it any different?
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    • #3






      Quote Originally Posted by Sharada
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      what about the UK? is it any different?




      The copyright laws vary from country to country. You can probably find answers here: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/co..._copyright_law



      Best, John
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      • #4
        I'm in a band and we want to copyright our music/lyrics.

        Would that be classified as a "sound recordings"?

        Can I include the lyrics with the songs seeing as I don't want those stolen either? I can submit a whole CD (11 songs) for only $45 right?



        Also..

        if in the future someone wants to use my stuff. do I still keep the copyright?
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        • #5






          Quote Originally Posted by /\/\()()
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          I'm in a band and we want to copyright our music/lyrics.

          Would that be classified as a "sound recordings"?

          Can I include the lyrics with the songs seeing as I don't want those stolen either? I can submit a whole CD (11 songs) for only $45 right?



          Also..

          if in the future someone wants to use my stuff. do I still keep the copyright?






          If you want to officially copyright a song (music & lyrics) use this form: http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formpa.pdf



          Yes, you can copyright the 11 songs as a compilation. For instance, list all 11 songs and then add "contained in" whatever title you're using for the CD.



          You can find all the answers to copyrights here: http://www.copyright.gov/



          Best, John
          Stop analyzing; just compose the damn thing!

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          • #6
            If someone were to lift your music after it had been sent to the copyright office but before it had been approved, would you have any legal leverage?
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            • #7






              Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler004
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              If someone were to lift your music after it had been sent to the copyright office but before it had been approved, would you have any legal leverage?




              yes.

              You are the owner of the copyright the moment the material is in 'tangible' form. Your submission to the Copyright Office is dated upon receipt as well.
              "We are currently experiencing some technical difficulties due to reality fluctuations. The elves are working tirelessly to patch the correct version of reality. Activities here have been temporarily disabled since the fundamentals of mathematics, physics and reason may be incomprehensible during this indeterminate period of instability. Normal service will be restored once we are certain as to what 'normal' is."

              Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally used up and worn out, shouting '...man, what a ride!'
              "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" ~Bob Marley

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              • #8
                Is there a way to get both copyrights, both the PA and RA, in one form? I'm about to register an album and I'd like to protect the recording and the music, without paying twice.
                Long live the power trio!

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                • #9
                  You'll need the "SR" form.



                  http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formsri.pdf



                  Best, John
                  Stop analyzing; just compose the damn thing!

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-Boy
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                    You'll need the "SR" form.



                    http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formsri.pdf



                    Best, John






                    Will that also protect the content like a PA form would?
                    Long live the power trio!

                    Do you like progressive music that rocks? Check out my band Blind Defeat at:

                    www.myspace.com/blinddefeat

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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by No Remorse
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                      Will that also protect the content like a PA form would?




                      Copyrights in sound recordings are always registered on Copyright Form SR. Copyrights in songs are usually filed on Copyright Form PA. However, if you are the copyright owner of both the song and the sound recording of that song, you can use Copyright Form SR to register both elements together. By registering the song and sound recording together, you will pay one filing fee instead of two.

                      Best, John
                      Stop analyzing; just compose the damn thing!

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                      • #12
                        here is what im trying/would like to get done:

                        -copyright the bandname

                        -copyright the song titles

                        -copyright the album



                        can i get this done with one form? and one payment?

                        thanks...
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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by No Arrow_Dann
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                          here is what im trying/would like to get done:

                          -copyright the bandname

                          -copyright the song titles

                          -copyright the album



                          can i get this done with one form? and one payment?

                          thanks...




                          band name? Nope, but you may be able to get a trademark on it...

                          song titles? Nope, you cannot copyright the title, since titles can be applied to a myraid of lyrics.

                          the album? yes, you can as a single work, but then you have issues licensing individual songs if you wanted to have them shopped around and covered.
                          "We are currently experiencing some technical difficulties due to reality fluctuations. The elves are working tirelessly to patch the correct version of reality. Activities here have been temporarily disabled since the fundamentals of mathematics, physics and reason may be incomprehensible during this indeterminate period of instability. Normal service will be restored once we are certain as to what 'normal' is."

                          Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally used up and worn out, shouting '...man, what a ride!'
                          "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" ~Bob Marley

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                          • #14
                            Okay I got things figured out now....I just need to know how to go about doing it....



                            I need to copyright our Album and Songs



                            according to copyright.gov I need...

                            a completed application Form SR and Form CON if needed.

                            a $45 payment to "Register of Copyrights."

                            nonreturnable copy(ies) of the material to be registered (read details)



                            so far all i understand is the 45 dollars! Form SR....okay I am the only author here, I wrote all the songs and there are 12 songs on this Album that gonna be called Souls For Sale... so is form CON just something you would if your covering something or using someone elses stuff? do i need to use this...?

                            copies of the material...okay what the hell do I send them? a burned CD? a tape? I dont have the inserts done yet or nothing and i want the inserts to say that the songs are copyrighted, so like...should I send them a full blown mastered and dup/replicated CD? cuz right now thats impossible cuz the songs arent copyrighted and I need the inserts to say that they are!!



                            or am I just confused over nothing here...can someone let me know how to get this done properly so that I dont end up screwing myself over when there shouldnt be any need to!?



                            if someones had this crap done before please...lend me a hand?!?
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                            A-WANGA-TANG-TANG!

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                            • #15
                              Well, Canada is a Berne convention country so like the thread outlines you have copyright at fixation, what you don't have is registration



                              Being a Canadian citizen (I assume the work was done in CA as well?) you might want to start with CIPO

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