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  • #16
    Sorry in advance if that sounds like spam:

    You may want to look at the Bose L1 compact. http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/l1_compact/index.jsp

    It is optimized for this type of application and your daughter will easily be able to carry, setup and operate it on her own. Maybe you can rent it for a gig and check how it works.

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    • #17
      Sorry in advance if that sounds like spam:

      You may want to look at the Bose L1 compact. http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/l1_compact/index.jsp

      It is optimized for this type of application and your daughter will easily be able to carry, setup and operate it on her own. Maybe you can rent it for a gig and check how it works.


      That's what I was going to suggest.

      -Dan.
      Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones.

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      • #18
        Consider the Yamaha MSR400 12" powered speaker.

        http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-MSR400-Powered-Speaker-Cabinet-103055497-i1152963.gc

        Not as good as the QSC, but still very good. It's also less expensive ($579.99) Couple this with a small mixer, use her current amp as a monitor, and you have a nice little PA for VFW Halls, etc. You can always add a second Yamaha MSR400 later to complete the system.
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        • #19
          Sorry in advance if that sounds like spam:

          You may want to look at the Bose L1 compact. http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/l1_compact/index.jsp

          It is optimized for this type of application and your daughter will easily be able to carry, setup and operate it on her own. Maybe you can rent it for a gig and check how it works.


          The L1 sounds good, but it seems like it's pretty limited on inputs. From what I can tell, if you want to add more vocalists/musicians, you pretty much have to spring for another L1. I don't think that's the direction we want to go.

          If they have one in the store, I'll take a very close look though.

          A couple of you have been advocating the powered speakers in conjunction with a mixer. Is there any particular advantage to doing it that way, other than power matching?

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          • #20
            Consider the Yamaha MSR400 12" powered speaker.

            http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-MSR400-Powered-Speaker-Cabinet-103055497-i1152963.gc

            Not as good as the QSC, but still very good. It's also less expensive ($579.99) Couple this with a small mixer, use her current amp as a monitor, and you have a nice little PA for VFW Halls, etc. You can always add a second Yamaha MSR400 later to complete the system.


            Or a pair of the Wharfedale Titan 12" powered speakers with a small mixer board. ($398 if you add it to cart).

            http://www.frontendaudio.com/Wharfedale_Titan_12_Speaker_System_p/9999-01717.htm

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            • #21
              Or a pair of the Wharfedale Titan 12" powered speakers with a small mixer board. ($398 if you add it to cart).

              http://www.frontendaudio.com/Wharfedale_Titan_12_Speaker_System_p/9999-01717.htm

              http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMMG124CX


              They do carry Wharfedale at the other shop I'll be visiting today. I'll see if they have those in stock. How would Wharfedale compare in general to Peavey or Yamaha?

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              • #22
                Well, since we're talking about sticks, take a look at this one too:

                YMMV.

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                • #23
                  From what I can tell, if you want to add more vocalists/musicians, you pretty much have to spring for another L1. I don't think that's the direction we want to go.


                  Or just run the musicians through a small mixer and then feed the Bose gear that signal...
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                  • #24


                    A couple of you have been advocating the powered speakers in conjunction with a mixer. Is there any particular advantage to doing it that way, other than power matching?



                    the advantage to the powered speakers in your case is that the speakers will have all processing built in. limiters, high pass filters etc. this will make them much more reliable.

                    a lot of them also have basic mixers built in. i know of a few that will allow two simultaneous inputs which would allow her to just grab one and go for smaller situations where she just needs say her guitar and vocal in a small place.

                    also in the event that you need to add more speakers you don't have to worry about figuring out how to add another power amp and such.
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                    • #25
                      I just found the following on Craigslist. I'm waiting on a reply, and hopefully some pictures, but this sounds like a good deal that would get the job done.

                      2 Tapco Thump self-powered speakers, 2 speaker poles with case, Behringer 1832FX mixer - $600.

                      The add says they've only been used 10 times, so I'm hoping that means they are in great condition.

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                      • #26
                        $700-$800 new for that stuff... not a bad deal, but not a great one either. Gotta start somewhere, though...
                        Where the Mississippi River runs west...

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                        • #27
                          I just found the following on Craigslist. I'm waiting on a reply, and hopefully some pictures, but this sounds like a great deal that would get the job done.

                          2 Tapco Thump self-powered speakers, 2 speaker poles with case, Behringer 1832FX mixer - $600.

                          The add says they've only been used 10 times, so I'm hoping that means they are in great condition.


                          That will work OK. I would offer somewhat less. Unfortunately we can give you ideas all we want, but it sounds like you need something today so you will be at the mercy of whatever GC has in stock at this time. Good luck.
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                          • #28
                            Yeah, I just priced the components and that's okay, but not great for used gear. Oh well, I'll post back with an update of what I buy.

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                            • #29
                              Make sure to ask what the GC and their local "competitor" have used. My local GC has a nice little yamaha 12ch. mixer for $75 that they took on trade-in as well as a demo B-52 Matrix 1000 system for $500. They hate used/demo stuff sitting around so make them an offer on whatever they have... you might be surprised.
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                              • #30


                                Or just run the musicians through a small mixer and then feed the Bose gear that signal...


                                You would think this could work.. BUT... an acoustic duo came to our church with exactly this set up. 2 vox and 2 acoustic guitars thru small mixer to the Bose. It was probably the worst sound I ever heard at our church.

                                Our workman-like Yamaha MG32/14 board / QSC RMX2450 / (and the weak point here) old EV "theater" speakers) sounded miles better. Granted, the whole mess might have been due to user error in the setup, ( I certainly hope so) because the Bose sounded lifeless, with no dynamics, squashed, thin and brittle sound with little bottom end on the guitars. It was having a lot of difficulty filling our 350 seat auditorium. I was underwhelmed.

                                A peavey box mixer with a couple of Impulse 1012's would have kicked the Bose's @$$ or a Yamaha EMX mixer and a couple of Club speakers would have been miles better. I know there are a lot of fans of the Bose L system stuff, but I think you've got to use it as it's designed to be used, and for smaller spaces only. Summing multiple inputs thru a small mixer up front of the unit doesn't get the job done. IMHO

                                My main board is a Soundcraft M12 but I also have a Peavey XR696F box mixer (used) on layaway at a local store for $400 Cdn. ($370 US). My Impulse 1012's (used) only cost me $400 Cdn and they are very capable FOH tops that can be used in a high-performance portable system. You could buy some used pieces like these and still have enough left over for microphones and stands.
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