Members Teoman Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'm sure some of you DX-7 lovers may have seen this video before. This is the first I'm hearing DX-7 with such a different palette of sounds. It is absolutely gorgeous. Being a vintage analog addict I have to confess that this thing sounds as good as those analogs if not better. If it had a Jellinghouse like add-on factory accessoir in its time it would have been in a different position today. I really wonder how those sounds were discovered while most people were used to analog way of thinking. My guess is that it required top sound engineering to get such sounds via a rather difficult interface at the time. Most people used the presets and very few were lucky to have a good understanding of FM and got professional results. I have a Casio CZ-3000 from that era as well but it is not even in the same league as the DX-7. Just wanted to share with you. Wish I had put a bid on OGG's Jellinghause And those low res D/A converters have some real magic in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I love FM8. If Yamaha made a synth that could take FM8 dumps, I'd buy it for a gig board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted December 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I love FM8. If Yamaha made a synth that could take FM8 dumps, I'd buy it for a gig board. FM-8 is indeed fantastic in its own right, still there is something in this old bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yeah! if that was all done on a DX7, im very impressed/surprised. Also being a Dr Who fan, im surprised ive never seen this episode? That woman droping the bombs down the hatch looks very similar to Servalan in Blakes 7. @Teoman, superb avatar sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted December 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi Flat, That avatar pictures my own Trident Sir Waiting your updated avatar as well That Dr Who thema is undoubtedly DX-7 maybe except the drums. All that bass lines, melodic lines and wild brassy textures are all typical DX-7. Honestly, it is much better than many analogs. Maybe it is time to fire up my DX-7 again. It defies no comparison. Very original and unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Peri is rather fetching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Im surprised I dont remember the sontarans in that episode.. although I don't recall it being any good either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Doctors I'm curious if the poster took the music from CD or tape and layered it over the video. He credits Peter Howell.. so I guess so. I thought maybe it was a fan soundrack, as I've wanted to do that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikael488 Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q52eb1eGBo I'm sure some of you DX-7 lovers may have seen this video before. This is the first I'm hearing DX-7 with such a different palette of sounds. It is absolutely gorgeous. Being a vintage analog addict I have to confess that this thing sounds as good as those analogs if not better. If it had a Jellinghouse like add-on factory accessoir in its time it would have been in a different position today. I really wonder how those sounds were discovered while most people were used to analog way of thinking. My guess is that it required top sound engineering to get such sounds via a rather difficult interface at the time. Most people used the presets and very few were lucky to have a good understanding of FM and got professional results. I have a Casio CZ-3000 from that era as well but it is not even in the same league as the DX-7. Just wanted to share with you. Wish I had put a bid on OGG's Jellinghause And those low res D/A converters have some real magic in it... Cool stuff! thanks for posting Some of the brassy lines in that clip sound like the Yamaha CS-80 to me, I don't think it's all DX-7. I'm sure Peter still used the CS-80 to some extent at the time. Micke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikael488 Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Reminds me of some of the music made for the film Runaway (yes, the one starring Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons). A TX816 was used for that. Jerry Goldsmith (R.I.P) used a lot more than that on Runaway... Here's a list of what synths he used on that score: Rhodes ChromaYamaha GS-1 FM synthesizerMemorymoogOberheim OB-8Yamaha DX-7 (x2)Minimoog Jupiter-8SCI Prophet T8plus a rented Emulator That's quite an impressive setup! cheers,Micke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 If Yamaha (or for that matter, anyone) made a controller with the same keybed as the original DX7 I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Unless I find a way to make the DX7IIFD less noisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted December 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Jerry Goldsmith (R.I.P) used a lot more than that on Runaway...Here's a list of what synths he used on that score:Rhodes ChromaYamaha GS-1 FM synthesizerMemorymoogOberheim OB-8Yamaha DX-7 (x2)Minimoog Jupiter-8SCI Prophet T8plus a rented EmulatorThat's quite an impressive setup!cheers,Micke Possibly... But those dissonant chords between 1:29 and 1:45 sound very digital, metallic and DX-7 to my ears. It is indeed possible with DX-7 to get such wild sounds as I audition the character closely these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MartinP-268 Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 I can hear Roland strings at the end. The DX7 can do convincing VP330 strings with external effects but I think they used an analogue synth here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted December 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 For the strings, yes there maybe some sort of Roland. What concerns me is the brassy textures though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 If Yamaha (or for that matter, anyone) made a controller with the same keybed as the original DX7 I'd buy it in a heartbeat.Unless I find a way to make the DX7IIFD less noisy. Yes! Why, why, why did they drop that design? I love the sound of the DX7 (a distinctly different timbre than the higher resolution output of my TX-802, although noisier) and hope to find one in good shape eventually, but would love one solely as a controller, it feels so nice to play. Evolution in this industry is definitely not a straightforward proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted December 21, 2008 Members Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yeah! if that was all done on a DX7, im very impressed/surprised. The DX7 is a bit underrated these days. Perhaps it is because there is an awful lot of bad DX7 tracks out there. (Listening to some old Hearts of Space shows reminded me of this recently. There was a period in the mid 1980s, I guess after Ray Lynch DX7ed his way through Deep Breakfast, where practically every New Age music composer switched out their arsenal of analog toys for a single DX7. The results often were awful. Which makes you forget the awesome DX7 ambient tracks. [YOUTUBE]lOgQyIMX_XU[/YOUTUBE]) Anyways, yeah, that Who track that does sound all-FM to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The DX7 is a bit underrated these days. And for goodness' sake, let's keep it that way. It must never be Solarized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Which makes you forget the awesome DX7 ambient tracks.Ok, that's it... I'll never sell my TX802. Never ever... ever ever ever! I want to be buried with it when I die. I love the sounds in that track. The Dr. Who soundtrack reminds me of the PC games in the early 90s running on the old FM-based soundcards, but with higher quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paolo Di Nicolantonio Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 )Anyways, yeah, that Who track that does sound all-FM to me. Can I ask you where you found that the video you posted is DX7? Not that I don't trust what you're saying, but do you have a source? Like other Eno albums (music for airports etc) it sounds analog, not FM to me... also, Daniel Lanois says it was mainly a CS-80, not a DX7 used in Apollo.. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-daniel-lanois/185972-apollo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The only good DX7 is a dead DX7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gribs Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Ah Peri, what an awesome set of tits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The only good DX7 is a dead DX7. It's not like you have to use it for the dreaded Whitney Houston EP sounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gunslinger69 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 So would the general consensus be that if I had a chance at a TX802 in great condition, with RAM cart and in an Anvil Forge II case for $50, I should take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 That, my friend, is a no-brainah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 So would the general consensus be that if I had a chance at a TX802 in great condition, with RAM cart and in an Anvil Forge II case for $50, I should take it?Don't even hesitate, GRAB IT!! Chances are you'll love it. If not, you'll be able to sell it for several times that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Can I ask you where you found that the video you posted is DX7? Not that I don't trust what you're saying, but do you have a source? Like other Eno albums (music for airports etc) it sounds analog, not FM to me... also, Daniel Lanois says it was mainly a CS-80, not a DX7 used in Apollo.. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-daniel-lanois/185972-apollo.html I'm relying on Wikipedia, and memories of some posts that I can't find (I could find a few like here and here, but I remember seeing more direct references). Honestly, does most of Apollo sound CS-80 to you? It doesn't to me... the base sounds more like the sine-waveish FM algorithms to me, maybe with only one modulator or so. Sure, it does sound warmer than the average DX7... one must wonder what Brian Eno's outboard gear is. (No one seems to give a {censored} about outboard gear when so many times -- Apollo included -- that's a huge component of the sound.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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