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  • All I can say is ... Wow!! I swear that I can hear subtle variations in the type of wood from model to model. Better yet, it's as if you can hear that magic space right near the wood itself, where the body is resonating into slightly humid air. (I know, I need to get out more.) But seriously, I'm in awe. The only Line 6 piece of gear I currently own is an M13 Stombox Modeler, which I love, but I think the Dream Rig may be in my future.

    Craig, thanks so much for this wonderful review. While I'm at it, I've been reading your reviews for at least 25 years now, and you're always the "final word" for me (besides trusting my ears, of course) regarding any piece of technology or its use(s). So, a belated Thank You for all that. I'm greatly looking forward to reading more. All the best!

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    • Metfoo- good thread on Line 6 Variax support 4 alternate VDI cable- they applaud the Line 6 accessory which costs $30 is 25 feet and heavy duty cable parts worth ~ $20. Can be purchased from Line 6 store or Musician's Friend.

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      • Quote Originally Posted by DrFunky
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        Metfoo- good thread on Line 6 Variax support 4 alternate VDI cable- they applaud the Line 6 accessory which costs $30 is 25 feet and heavy duty cable parts worth ~ $20. Can be purchased from Line 6 store or Musician's Friend.




        ...and here's the link for the product page on Musician's Friend.
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        • Quote Originally Posted by thormusique
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          All I can say is ... Wow!! I swear that I can hear subtle variations in the type of wood from model to model. Better yet, it's as if you can hear that magic space right near the wood itself, where the body is resonating into slightly humid air. (I know, I need to get out more.) But seriously, I'm in awe.




          I have to say this is SUCH a great guitar to review. It's one of those products where I can't help but get a smile on my face when I pick it up and start playing. The models really nail the guitar sounds to a freakishly accurate degree, but it's the flexibility that really rocks. I did a quick alternate tuning for the sitar sound to get a tamboura drone (all tonics and fifths). Took me a couple minutes, and now I have a Line 6 Variax tamoura
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          • Quote Originally Posted by Anderton
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            ...and here's the link for the product page on Musician's Friend.




            I purchased one from amazon. Its much better than the included one.

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            • Quote Originally Posted by DrFunky
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              Metfoo- good thread on Line 6 Variax support 4 alternate VDI cable- they applaud the Line 6 accessory which costs $30 is 25 feet and heavy duty cable parts worth ~ $20. Can be purchased from Line 6 store or Musician's Friend.




              Hello Dr Funky,

              Nice interaction between ya'll. I feel like I've been getting a free class in Line6, and I

              was a dealer. As far as the pickups for your 69 go, I have a suggestion. Seymour dose pickups custom with white bobbins I believe. I'd go with a custom custom in the bridge, a duckbucker in the middle and a Lil 59 in the neck. If you use an original mega switch for your five way you get bridge, bridge middle, bridge neck, middle neck and neck for your five positions. if you can get someone to put a 4pdt switch in

              there, you can wire the bridge and neck pickups in series parallel to one switch.



              What this setup dose is give you all the strat, tele and les paul-ish sounds, but it's

              all hum canceling. You just think of the series parallel switch as hot or clean. And

              the five way is the same accept for the middle position. there you get bridge and

              neck like a tele or les p. My jam night guitar is set up like this and it's great.



              Kind of weird going through all that trouble to get a bunch of different sounds with

              the mag's in a guitar that gives you all of those combinations with the the mod's.

              But think about it. You could run the mag's with one sound, and the mod's with a

              totally different setup and sound like two players at once. Throw in the harmonizer

              in the HD500 and look out Brian May!



              On another note, can anyone tell me how muck room there is between the electronic

              guts in the 59 and the top. I've been thinking of get'n one but I've got Bigsbys on

              every guitar I own. I'm just wondering if there's enough room for even some short

              screws in the top. Also, is the bridge locked in place like a Tone Pros. I've never

              worked with that bridge before.



              Thanks Kidz,

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              • Thanks Tooth! Really good suggestions... I already ordered the Custom Trembucker and 2 Fender Customshop "Fat 50's" single coils (I'm a Strat guy). This is exactly what is on Fender CustomShop Showmaster Strats. Mine will all be in matching Cream. The scratch plate is mint but this Combo looks good and will sound very good and as you say, be a little different than the strat setup on the Line 6 models.



                The wiring you mentioned I will have done for the JTV also because that IS the wiring scheme on the Showmaster's, and you are right, much quieter and sounds great! I found out from a Line 6 thread that if you do stuff like this it voids your warranty, but I have never had any problems with my Line 6 gear and as long as they don't disturb the wiring from Line 6 from piezo's for Variax I don't think there will be any trouble. we'll see when they try to remove the JTV PU's. I found the wiring scheme for all 3 JTV Variax's on that Line 6 support forum page when I got to JTV Variax. (The mag wiring that is).



                Sorry I can't help you with the Bigsby. I am s strat guy. But if you go to Line 6 support forums, for Variax support/ JTV Variax, there are many threads on modifying the JTV 59. A fellow named Neal (AKA MerlinFl) seems to be especially well versed in modifications of the JTV 59. He should be able to answer your questions.



                You might also check out the dialogue that is going on about the differences between the USA and the Korean JTV 59 which Craig brought up here. MerlinFL is involved in that one too and might be a good place to ask him this question.

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                • Quote Originally Posted by DrFunky
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                  Thanks Tooth! Really good suggestions... I already ordered the Custom Trembucker and 2 Fender Customshop "Fat 50's" single coils (I'm a Strat guy). This is exactly what is on Fender CustomShop Showmaster Strats. Mine will all be in matching Cream. The scratch plate is mint but this Combo looks good and will sound very good and as you say, be a little different than the strat setup on the Line 6 models.



                  The wiring you mentioned I will have done for the JTV also because that IS the wiring scheme on the Showmaster's, and you are right, much quieter and sounds great! I found out from a Line 6 thread that if you do stuff like this it voids your warranty, but I have never had any problems with my Line 6 gear and as long as they don't disturb the wiring from Line 6 from piezo's for Variax I don't think there will be any trouble. we'll see when they try to remove the JTV PU's. I found the wiring scheme for all 3 JTV Variax's on that Line 6 support forum page when I got to JTV Variax. (The mag wiring that is).



                  Sorry I can't help you with the Bigsby. I am s strat guy. But if you go to Line 6 support forums, for Variax support/ JTV Variax, there are many threads on modifying the JTV 59. A fellow named Neal (AKA MerlinFl) seems to be especially well versed in modifications of the JTV 59. He should be able to answer your questions.



                  You might also check out the dialogue that is going on about the differences between the USA and the Korean JTV 59 which Craig brought up here. MerlinFL is involved in that one too and might be a good place to ask him this question.




                  Thanks Again,



                  I'll check the other threads. What I'd really like would be to find someone, a dealer

                  perhaps, that got one of the Variax's in damaged. I'd just like the guts. I build my

                  own guitars and would love to put one together around the Tyler Variax hardware.



                  Have Fun!

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                  • RE- Variax guts:

                    I have heard of people doing that and successfully Tooth... but if you can't locate one (I learned from Line 6 today that the Line 6 Variax guts are worth ~ $6-700 and are exactly the same in all US and Korean Variax's). If you can not find a defective used JTV then the Korean JTV 89's are $1,300 new. I see that Adrian Belew has Variax innards in his $12,000 signature Parker Fly! So have fun building your own.

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                    • This is a great review, I'm very interested in the JTV variax line.



                      I tend towards strat and mahogany guitars -- I like them light and resonant. My main questions:



                      1) Does the trem on the 69 affect the tracking or tone? For example, I have a Godin with synth access, and the trem on it tends to cause tracking issues (mistracking, 'bongs', etc., ) due to trem arm/spring resonances that are picked up by the piezos.



                      2) Has anyone used/compared the 89 vs 69 re weight and resonance (talking about uplugged, pure wood here.)



                      Thanks in advance,

                      TT

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                      • Quote Originally Posted by Tommy.Tequila
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                        This is a great review, I'm very interested in the JTV variax line.



                        I tend towards strat and mahogany guitars -- I like them light and resonant. My main questions:



                        1) Does the trem on the 69 affect the tracking or tone? For example, I have a Godin with synth access, and the trem on it tends to cause tracking issues (mistracking, 'bongs', etc., ) due to trem arm/spring resonances that are picked up by the piezos.



                        2) Has anyone used/compared the 89 vs 69 re weight and resonance (talking about uplugged, pure wood here.)



                        Thanks in advance,

                        TT




                        I can't comment as I'm using the JTV-59, but remember there's no tracking involved - this isn't a MIDI guitar, but uses digital signal processing on the individual strings to create the models. So, the "tracking" would be as good as, say, the "tracking" with a chorus or reverb.



                        As to tone, I don't really see any way the vibrato tailpiece could interfere with the tone any more than it would with a standard guitar. In almost all respects, the Variax IS a standard guitar...it just happens to have DSP to model different guitar sounds.
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                        • Thanks for the quick reply! I seem to remember hearing reports of 'pinging' overtones, etc., in the old variax line due to trem spring/piezo interaction. Was just wondering if anyone with a 69 had experienced it with the JTV models.



                          I'll try and find a 69 and 89 to try myself...



                          TT

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                          • I don't know about the other 2 models, but the 59 is the heaviest guitar I have ever owned. It really my only gripe.

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                            • Toothinhand,



                              I found the answer to your question on Line 6 JTV forum from a few days ago. Quoting Crusty Old Rocker, a Line 6 employee:



                              "You will get a terrible result with the modelled tones. The reason is the Piezo PUs in the bridge saddles...When operating a Bigsby Trem, the strings actually move over the bridge saddles. With magnetic PUs this works fine but having a string physically rubbing itself against a Piezo PU is going to be heard and the sound will be very loud and very nasty. I would suggest you look at the Stetsbar bridge...http//stetsbar.com/"



                              I hope this is of some help,

                              Funky

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                              • Quote Originally Posted by Tommy.Tequila
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                                Thanks for the quick reply! I seem to remember hearing reports of 'pinging' overtones, etc., in the old variax line due to trem spring/piezo interaction. Was just wondering if anyone with a 69 had experienced it with the JTV models.



                                I'll try and find a 69 and 89 to try myself...



                                TT




                                Hello Tom,



                                And any one else who may have had this problemo. The pinging from the springs

                                comes from the springs being enveloped in the magnetic field of the pickups. It

                                happens when the trem block it cut shorter than a standard strat or floyd trem,

                                like a PRS. Because the body is thinner the need for the shorter block is apparent.



                                I had this problem with my PRS custom, and a couple of guitars I built early on. What

                                I did to get around it was to cut some thin foam strips from some pickup packaging

                                and stuffed it into the spring to act as damping. It's a pain in the butt to do. What

                                works best is to use thin tweezers to feed from one side, and pull from the other.



                                I'm guessing this would help with any piezo trem pickup, if that's where they are

                                getting the "acoustic" sound. But as Mr Anderton so aptly pointed out, the acoustic

                                sounds on the Variax are modeled.



                                Hope This Helps,

                                T.I.H.

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