Members gilwe Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 I was offered to trade my Oberheim Matrix 6R with a Korg MS2000R. Considering I never really programmed the Matrix and that I'm really after its type of sound, do you think the Korg would be better ? I generally like Korgs, especially the P6, Trident and the MS10/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 I think the Matrix6 will have an analog sound, but you might get more done/have more fun with the MS2000R. If you're not using the Matrix, do it. You can always get another one later if you miss it, they're on Ebay all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Scharf Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Ive had both the ms2k and oberheim and they are very different sounding beasts. the Ms2k is definitely NOT an analog sounding instrument - not by a long shot. That said, I still have my ms2k but I sold my matrix 6r. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Id agree with Awake77. The MS2000 is a really fun, productive and great sounding module. Just listen to STG's stuff. That Mod sequencer is seriously cool too. Id say, along with the Novation KS-Rack, its one of the best bad-for-your-buck lower end synths around. Also, if you miss the Oberheim sound, pickup a used Matrix 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by flat earth Also, if you miss the Oberheim sound, pickup a used Matrix 1000. But they cost the same. (the 6R and 1000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by gilwe I was offered to trade my Oberheim Matrix 6R with a Korg MS2000R. If you want to try new stuff, why not. But before selling 6R, make sure you tried all 1100 free patches for it. If you don't need that sound, sell it. For example i miss that filter sound. It has incredible smooth resonant filter, and will NEVER overdrive - perfect for aural resonant sweep pads. I need to get 1000. But this time i'll get white one. I'm tired of repairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by Don Solaris But they cost the same. (the 6R and 1000) yeah i know (lou and andy) ...but, 1000s are far more common on the used market. Thats why i suggested it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted June 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 I have the Matrix for a two years and really have never found it interesting enough. Somehow its sound bores me, so I thought selling it anyway. But the question is - is the MS2000 an interesting/great synth on its own ? I don't care trading analog for digital, as long as it is a special instrument. It's got 4.7 rating on vintagesynth.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 it definatley has its own charactor. Listen to the track 'The Return Of Harry Crumb' on STG's sound vault page. That arped bass sound is an MS. http://www.suitandtieguy.com/audio.htm PS Sorry STG. You must get pretty fed-up of me always mentioning your stuff, but it really demonstrates certains synths very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 ..but, 1000s are far more common on the used market. Thats why i suggested it it also is supposed to handle sysex controller data well, as opposed to the Matrix 6 and 6r, which tend to lock up. (so Ive read, anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 But the question is - is the MS2000 an interesting/great synth on its own ? Great? Not really, Interesting? It depends on what you find interesting. It's a VA I want to get rid of but never seem to be able too. Heck, I even prefer the v-synth analog engine over the ms2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by flat earth ...but, 1000s are far more common on the used market. Thats why i suggested it Oh...you meant after he sell 6R. Yeah. 1000 is a way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by Awake77 it also is supposed to handle sysex controller data well, as opposed to the Matrix 6 and 6r, which tend to lock up. (so Ive read, anyway) matrix 1000 has the same problems with sysex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dxdreamer Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 if your not into /making old school musicms2000 is far more useful and with many current sounding free patches to download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted June 19, 2006 Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 +1 there...old synths are cool, and are very capable of making modern-sounding patches but keep in mind you have to program them all from scratch. There's definitely something to be said for an inspiring preset.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted June 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 19, 2006 Originally posted by flat earth That arped bass sound is an MS. Sounds nice but nothing exceptional.... The sound you could easily get with a VSTi. Any demo for pads / leads ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dxdreamer Posted June 20, 2006 Members Share Posted June 20, 2006 Originally posted by gilwe Sounds nice but nothing exceptional.... The sound you could easily get with a VSTi. Any demo for pads / leads ? for that price... it's the best VA synth you can get! softwares... i dont think so... havn't tried one sound like ms2000, and of coz u can get some similar sounding patches from different Vstis in a thinner sounding fasion oh and its even cheaper than Ion or microkorg in the used market ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted June 20, 2006 Members Share Posted June 20, 2006 The big flaws with the ms2000 are in playability unless you play one handed. You can't do things like route the mod wheel to resonance, or route velocity to decay or release, etc. It's mod matrix is really really limited in that sense. It also has significant timing issues when running against midi clock. The arp doesn't sync that great and it's easy to overload the processor even when not using the arp causing notes to be delayed, etc. The effects are shared when you run it multitimbrally and the chorus is pretty crappy. Sounds nice but nothing exceptional.... The sound you could easily get with a VSTi. Any demo for pads / leads ? I agree, I wouldn't say that is a very representitive sound. Compared to other VA's the ms2000 is generally pretty thin sounding. Of course it does do a nice bandpass with distortion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted June 20, 2006 Members Share Posted June 20, 2006 Originally posted by Umbra I agree, I wouldn't say that is a very representitive sound. Compared to other VA's the ms2000 is generally pretty thin sounding. Your entitled to your opinion, but id would say the MS is one of the more original, intersting sounding VAs out there. It has some annoying features (4 note poly for one) But it more than makes up for it with cool features such as the MOD Sequencer and DWG waveforms. I would take one over a JP8000 any day. Buts that of course is my opinion Gilwe! some sounds here if you havent already looked http://www.synthmania.com/ms2000.htm Check patch# F01 Golden Synth ! & A09 MG BASS (Sorry, but that ain't thin sounding ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Scharf Posted June 20, 2006 Members Share Posted June 20, 2006 I agree with flat earth. If your looking for analog, the ms2k maybe not your thing..but if your looking for different, then it certaing can do that!. It seems to be a really love it or hate it kinda synth. Ive got the MS2000BR, but am going to sell it cause I just got a Radias...but maybe not. I cant seem to bring myself to give it up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members midi Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Ditch the MS2K, the Radias Rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Scharf Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by midi Ditch the MS2K, the Radias Rules! yeah it does!. I just need to finish converting a few more of my favorite patches over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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