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Originally posted by NewSc2

Yep, even though he can't play piano or drums, he can at least create good music.

 

Dude, that's going in my sig. People need to realise that musicality has very little to do with instrumental proficiency.

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Originally posted by henre

Dude, that's going in my sig. People need to realise that musicality has very little to do with instrumental proficiency.

 

 

I think that people also need to realize that no matter how much you say this, it's not going to make up for any technical shortcomings that keep you from playing what you really want to play.

 

 

I'm not poitning fingers at anybody here, I don't think anyone is guilty of it in this thread (maybe some are...I don't know). But as strikingly true as it is that technicality does not equal musicality, it's also strikingly true that a lot of lame musicians who can't do {censored} will mask that fact by not working on their playing but just talking about how technical proficiency won't make them any better.

 

It won't make your ideas any better but it gives options to execute more ideas. You dig? :cool:

 

 

 

 

Of course a lot of people don't need to execute {censored} anymore. They get the computer to do it for them. :o

I realize there are times this can be musical or creative, such as the video posted. I'm playing some stuff on Saturday that involves bass loops on one keyboard while I play another...but I need to play the other instrument proficiently after I get the loop backing it up. Etc etc etc.

 

 

You've got your Jordan Rudesses who play to much, and then you have your Open Jam musicians who {censored} around all day and talk about "musicality" in some cliched {censored}ty old fashioned rock and they can't play a single note by themselves without being out of tune. :freak:

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Originally posted by hogberto

so you're crap at the piano then?
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HOLY CRAP BUUUURRRRRRRRN :o

 

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Originally posted by TheFoosa

I think that people also need to realize that no matter how much you say this, it's not going to make up for any technical shortcomings that keep you from playing what you really want to play.


I'm not poitning fingers at anybody here, I don't think anyone is guilty of it in this thread (maybe some are...I don't know). But as strikingly true as it is that technicality does not equal musicality, it's also strikingly true that a lot of lame musicians who can't do {censored} will mask that fact by not working on their playing but just talking about how technical proficiency won't make them any better.


It won't make your ideas any better but it gives options to execute more ideas. You dig?
:cool:

Of course a lot of people don't need to execute {censored} anymore. They get the computer to do it for them.
:o
I realize there are times this can be musical or creative, such as the video posted. I'm playing some stuff on Saturday that involves bass loops on one keyboard while I play another...but I need to play the other instrument proficiently after I get the loop backing it up. Etc etc etc.


You've got your Jordan Rudesses who play to much, and then you have your Open Jam musicians who {censored} around all day and talk about "musicality" in some cliched {censored}ty old fashioned rock and they can't play a single note by themselves without being out of tune.
:freak:

Very good response, and I agree completely. My point was merely that you don't necessarily have to be an instrumental master to be a great musician. Jack Johnson is far from being a guitar god, but he plays some sweet tunes, I'd say.

 

I find myself in the advantageous position of being a composer who writes from a purely theoretical POV. I don't write riffs or beats or melodies so that I can play them; I write them so they sound good, and then either practice until I can play them or find band members who can. So at the end of the day, my music is not limited by my instrumental skill as much as it is limited by my theoretical knowledge.

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Originally posted by TheFoosa

It won't make your ideas any better but it gives options to execute more ideas. You dig?
:cool:

 

Disagree. The smarter your hands are the smarter your ideas are. I'm in the peculiar position of having gone from technique reduced to about grade four shakey two years ago (due to 30 years of neglect) to maybe grade eight plus (equivalent--classical isn't my repertory) and getting solider and more varied every day. At all times my ideas have been (and continue to be) just a little more complex/difficult than what I can actually do without practising a piece or a lick a lot.

 

So my own experience is that ideas are directly proportional to chops.

 

Lasse Gjertsen is, of course, a virtuoso editor: his chops.

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