Minimoog madness

I love the mini as much as the next guy, but this guy is unreal...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260246464652

I could buy a Rogue, a Multimoog, and a Muse receptor with Moog Modular V & Minimoog V loaded for that kind of scratch.

Ridiculous price!

But for mini-owners its GREAT! Like seeing the future of your already fat bloated pig investment! I can't see them NOT hitting 5 grand in general in a few years!

But its getting like old stratocasters- just STOOPID!

Thats not far off the going rate in UK to be honest...

Since the Mini schematics are probably well known and without all the nasty tiny SMT thingies but big chunky parts...

wouldn't it be sensible to start making clones?

There obviously must be more to it or the minimoog oldskool would actually BE a minimoog!

I wish they could... I paid 3 grand... But I will say it gets more use than anything else synthwise!

That is probably one of the most beautiful Model Ds I've ever seen

- CM

Well, he is in Italy, and there probably aren't all that many minty model Ds in that corner of the planet.

That plus currency conversion is likely a factor as well. The US dollar is tanking these days.

Yep. 4800 dollars equates to roughly 3150 euros... Which is about the going price for a new Voyager Select series.

- CM

If someone would make a bang-on Model D clone (for a non-absurd price) I'd probably submit and buy. All I'd ask is that they stick some patch memory in there. The Voyager is nice enough, but its sound is far enough off the mark from a good D that I still think there would be room. As was pointed out though, maybe if it were that easy Moog would've already done it?..

Edit - btw 832 views for his item, so he's got a decent chance of selling it even at those prices..

There obviously must be more to it or the minimoog oldskool would actually BE a minimoog! I wish they could... I paid 3 grand... But I will say it gets more use than anything else synthwise!

Do you consider the Voyager Old School to be some how "less than" a Model D, in terms of tone?

Yeah, but that's what makes it complicated .

They too have to keep costs of labor and parts into account.

that seems fair for 30+ year old mini in that condition.

i paid a few hundred less for my two minis together, though.

First off, no I consider it DIFFERENT. The Voyager is NO minimoog (and the minimoog is NO voyager), but its an awesome synth. If I had to pick? Well I did pick and I went with the model D. As far as comparing the two sonically and emotionally- the minimoog model D wipes the floor with the Voyager...

I wouldn't mind having a voyager but it is in no way shape or form equivalent to a minimoog model D. The only people who say it is, are just trying to fool themselves into liking their Voyager... and have never had the 2 side by side.

This is always a big flame topic which is sad cause the Voyager is a great moog synth. They just shouldn't piggy back the mini so hard...

The little Phatty on the other hand is complete trash!

Not sure how in one paragraph we you go from no, the Voyager isn't "less than", to "wipes the floor with", but hey.

I'd love to try a Model D some time!

that seems fair for 30+ year old mini in that condition. i paid a few hundred less for my two minis together, though.

TWO? hehehe... Actually the mini is the only synth I would never need 2 of cause its so unstable, I only track with it. Trying to keep two, in tune, relative to each other.... YIKES.

But I bet 6 osc of saw sound CRAZY! Actually, having two means "back up parts", worst case scenario, and thats very cool.

Not sure how in one paragraph we you go from no, the Voyager isn't "less than", to "wipes the floor with", but hey.

Ummm... Theres a HUGE difference between a synth's abilities and personal preferance. The Voyager is a powerful synth anyone should be glad to own. IF you are looking for a MINIMOOG, the voyager SUCKS!

So, no not contradictory whatsoever. Ive just had the pleasure of using both and most haven't so its not sensible to them. The minimoog is more visceral to me and that has nothing to do with actual synthesis, just how it makes you feel.

Relativity people...

Fair enough! Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully I'll get to try one some time!

Fair enough! Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully I'll get to try one some time!

Just don't use the Voyager and Little Crappy as a minimoog frame of reference! Once you get to play a real one for a couple minutes, you'll see! And if you like synths, you need to fiddle with an original mini!

They all sound slightly different due to age and component variances, but there is certain magic that they ALL have! Some are warmer, some are edgier, but they all kick your ass when you hear them! They also go out of tune when my a/c kicks in so....

Whitepapa, having read all your posts above, I'm still not clear on this: Do you like the minimoog or not?

:poke:

Put it this way.... I already glued fake boobs on the back and made the 1/4 inch hole slightly wider.... Thank god for external inputs!

TWO? hehehe... Actually the mini is the only synth I would never need 2 of cause its so unstable, I only track with it. Trying to keep two, in tune, relative to each other.... YIKES. But I bet 6 osc of saw sound CRAZY! Actually, having two means "back up parts", worst case scenario, and thats very cool.

Have you considered the radical concept of having the instrument serviced? A mini can be made very stable.

I think stable is a relative concept here... Plus I don't want to replace osc boards. If you are saying they can make a mini NOT drift EVER without changing ANYTHING major/tonally- then I would be interested to see/ hear more... I just don't think thats the case... But maybe you have magic dwarves that rebuild minis?

I like THIS mini specifically... Thats my concern. And by the way- it has the buffer board and it HAS been serviced in the past 5 years. I have RACKS of gear WAY older than the mini and I have a company, Studio Electronics (David Kulka), who service my entire recording studio. He didn't service the mini though... But yes, I understand the "radical" concept.... Please...Noob.

howdy, papa gold. I don't think you've given the Little Phatty a fair shake. I checked out that tune on your soundclick page and those are some of the kinds of sounds I program most on my LP. It does 'em damn well.

I am biased so I'm not going to go on about it... but I reckon you should try one of the new ones. Preferably where you can sequence it, if sequencing's your thing... all parameters send/receive MIDI and it responds really well. It shows you a whole side of the instrument that you won't get from noodling around in a store. Anyway, maybe you have some serious reasons why you bag on it so, but I don't think it's "crappy" so I thought I'd speak up.

I think stable is a relative concept here... Plus I don't want to replace osc boards. If you are saying they can make a mini NOT drift EVER without changing ANYTHING major/tonally- then I would be interested to see/ hear more... I just don't think thats the case... But maybe you have magic dwarves that rebuild minis? I like THIS mini specifically... Thats my concern. And by the way- it has the buffer board and it HAS been serviced in the past 5 years. I have RACKS of gear WAY older than the mini and I have a company, Studio Electronics (David Kulka), who service my entire recording studio. He didn't service the mini though... But yes, I understand the "radical" concept.... Please...Noob.

Relative, yes. It is after all an analog instrument.

I have customers who have gigged with their mini's for upwards of 10 years without having to do a calibration. I don't replace oscillator boards or do anything in the audio chain. If your instrument drifts in a studio environment, I find it hard to believe it has been properly *serviced*.

Yes, I am an analog noob. I just started my company about 3 days ago. I'm learning as I go and was hoping that your mini would be my first service job.