Can you hear any break (register) in these samples?

Just me going from high to low and then low to high...they're both the same range (I think 3 octaves neatly from D to D as far as I can tell).

Is there any noticeable break in the registers? I don't hear any, and I don't even know how to HIDE any if I DID notice any...does this mean I have no chest voice, or no head voice, or what!? lol I remember my best friend always going on and on about how she had issues disguising her register breaks and I just didn't get it!

The samples are the newest "tracks" on my Soundclick, entitled high to low and low to high respectively.

Thanks!

www.soundclick.com/germpatterson

I hear a timbre change at 5 seconds into the low -> high recording, possibly this is where you transition from chest to mix or head.

I don't hear any breaks though.

nope

So…what does that mean then? That I HAVE no breaks? Is that even possible? Or that I’m singing in such a wrong way that I don’t experience any breaks I would have if I sang properly? Or that somehow I just know instinctively how to avoid making the breaks obvious?

I would say it's a good thing.

You have a lovely voice. Stop analyzing everything and second-guessing yourself all the goddamn time.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But to me, when I try and do this sort of powerhouse vocal (in parts) song, my voice IS broken!! To me, it is! Cause I can’t do that type of singing properly…if I could do that, then I’d be so happy. I’d feel like I could do anything then. Right now I’m so restricted. I know on my Soundclick there’re a heap of nice songs and that’s great, but do you think I just don’t WANT to do any belting type songs, or any strong voice singing songs? Cause there’s none on there! I DO want to do them, very much, but…can’t.

WHOOPS! This post was meant to be on another thread! But I guess it’s relevant here too. Lol.

I get a feeling you're the only one on this forum who appears to have this problem, meaning you won't gain anything by posting about it here.

Vocal coach?

I feel your pain Grace.......but in reverse. I need more head voice. They're aren't any nice songs for my range, so I have to sing tenor but it's all too high. Or I can sing it but I'm singing a chest voice part in head voice so the big belting notes are just pathetic.........and That is the only reason I don't sing Josh Groban songs even though he's my musical idol.

Anyway. The fact that we can barely hear register breaks is a great thing. It mostly likely means that your very skilled at it. I doubt that you can't use chest voice. Have you tried the vibration test?

Put your fingers at the base of skull, where you feel the bone stop and ligaments etc start. Now put your other hand on your chest. Slide down from your top note and you should feel the vibrations at the back of your head first and then they move to your chest for the lower notes. At some point you should feel vibrations in both areas but at the top and bottom of your range the vibrations should be separate.

Don't bother with that test Grace - you have chest voice there's no doubt and I don't understand why you keep mentioning it.

YOU CAN'T SING D3 IN FALSETTO AS A WOMAN

... meaning you definitely can sing in your chest voice.

Well, I did the vibration test, and I can feel stuff in the back of my head ALL the time, right down to the very lowest note. But I don't really feel much in the chest...I do feel SOMETHING in the chest, a very subtle feeling, but only for about the lowest 5 notes or so. MAybe my chest voice range of notes is just REALLY small / short.

Sorry to be annoying, Masklin! I don't know anything about what's physically possible for women to sing in head voice or chest or falsetto or what!

WOW!!!!

It seems that, in fact, you do have very little chest voice. It would explain why you can't sing very strongly.

Unfortunately too, there are countless methods of getting into headvoice but not many methods to get into chest voice.

One of the strengthening exercises on the CD I use is yelling. You yell Hey You!!! Only a couple of times but it's definitiely from the chest area. Try that.

http://www.singingvoicelessons.com/courses.html

Click on Foundations

Click on Course Content and Audio Samples

Click on Hey You example

I totally understand what you mean.

Before (about 10 years ago) I couldn't belt tunes out at all.

I finally realised the problem. It was tied to my entire state of mind.

I never yelled. I didn't really argue (then;) )and when I heard myself

on a mic I immediately began to sing softer, almost because I was

embarrassed of my voice (not saying you feel this way, nor should you)

I stopped being soft spoken.

I started talking louder and just sort of pretended I had confidence.

Slowly I began to feel more comfortable singing those belty portions of songs.

I'm still a sucker for smooth, slow and airy/breathy vocals:idea:

Seriously there is (I believe) another voice in there waiting to come out.

Unless you develop it...it might not be heard nor might it not ever surface.

This is why you say you wish you could sing like XXX or YYY...

Just do it! Don't think about it. Try first to do an impression of her.

Remember the cookie monster post I wrote?

Scream, yell. Your voice will change from soft to hard so to speak.

Then target that explosion and fire!

Oh, btw do you need an mp3 converter that works?

Johnny's tip sounds sensible, try that.

Also, chest voice does not necessarily mean that you feel vibrations in your chest. This might be the general case for males since the notes they sing are generally of longer wavelength, meaning the cavities in the chest may amplify. This is hardly the case for women though, so it makes perfect sense that you don't feel anything until your absolute bottom.

Again, what Johnny said sounds good - go somewhere and shout your heart out, pretend you're angry at something or maybe that you're trying to scare a dog or whatever into submission (obviously consistent shouting is kinda bad, but you get what I'm saying).

Hmm. It’s good that you understand, Johnny! I think in my case it is and was my state of mind, but it’s now become more a total physical inability of my body to know HOW to do it properly! It’s “forgotten”, you know? And the thing is, I DO yell, but I didn’t really start to yell until I was about 17 or so and went through a bit of an “adult tantrum” phase. Lol. And when I yell, I think it probably sounds not unlike it does when I try and sing strongly…sort of odd. Lol.

With the automatically singing softer when the mic’s on, I think I do this too…the other day I was experimenting with holding the mic quite far away from my mouth cause I felt I was deafening everything and it was too loud, and this may have helped a bit, but I’m not sure…

Yes, I’d LOVE an MP3 converter that works and is actually free forever, not just the sample versions that expire after a month or whatever! Lol.

I actually find that when I’m sort of…reprimanding my cats for being naughty, lol, I get more of a sort of…edge thing to my voice. It’s not head-y at all, which is good. But I don’t know how I’d ever go about putting that into proper singing!