Craig Vecchione

Originally Posted by Axisplayer Guess that REALLY applies to me this time (memory lapse that is.) Don't remember deleting it, but to be honest, the system changed so much over the last year I may as well start over anyway. No prob.

Originally Posted by W. M. Hellinger Sorry about that... I'm suspecting that might be my fault... and I messed up. dang... I really wish I could undo a lot of the stuff that I didn't do right, and do more of the few things I've done right... but then my sister wanted a pony too. Fortunately god generally makes a tomorrow for us. There are always reasons for what we do, even if nobody, even we...can figure them out later.

Originally Posted by Axisplayer I had an early post here (I think I wash the second person in the thread) but it's gone. On the first page I see that someone quoted a line from my post which had to be prior to his, but is now MIA. Guess I will have to look at every page, delete any remnants and start over with it. Gonna look like a latecomer to the party..... They say your memory is the second thing to go as we age....... You deleted the post, and the reason with it is Updated system info in later thread. If you would like, I can restore that post. Nothing a member deletes is actually gone...mods and admin can still view deleted posts. Let me know (via PM please, in case I forget to read this thread...I'm old too.....)

Whatever you say. At least I cited REAL WORLD examples, in the midst of others referring to 'black markets' and other concepts with NO CITATIONS WHATSOEVER. You're fooling yourself buddy, but you don't fool me. PhilthyGeezer has more intellectual honesty in his pinky than you'll ever know, though your education and perhaps IQ is superior. You would do well to learn from his example. Your REAL WORLD examples showed nothing more than people motivated to be violent and doing so. Making guns more difficult to purchase legally only makes it difficult for law abiding people to purchase guns. It will do NOTHING to make purchasing guns illegally more difficult. People are remarkably resourceful when it comes to doing harm to themselves or others. You're thrashing around and lashing out at people who are being reasonable and rational, and it's because you have an emotional tie to the issue. You aren't capable of discussing this dispassionately and are proving that moreso with every post. It might be time to step away.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/nyregion/14shoot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&hp I'd be willing to bet they would have tried elsewhere if they knew the old guy had a shotgun. This is not too different from having an alarm company sign on the lawn, a red LED flashing on your dashboard, or a Dobie lounging on your front step. Sure, you can give it a try, but the overwhelming majority will move on. And if not, they roll the dice...

To me, the only way to keep criminals in check is with a properly documented and regulated Concealed Carry Licenses like we have here in TX. Right now I have no statistics to support my thought, but the concept is if criminals want to commit a gun-related crime, they'd more likely think about it first if they believed ~20% of the people in the 'room' were armed. It could be a false idea, but I know that of the poeple I know with CCL, I regularly trust them all with my kids. I don't know whether this would work or not. I doubt it would have any real effect on the nutjobs like Cho, or on crimes of passion. These people will find a way, and that's the aspect conveniently ignored by people with an anti-gun agenda....they're taking the acts of a mentally ill person and ascribing blame where it doesn't lie. They also have a "perfect world" mentality of assuming we can somehow wipe the streets of literally millions of guns currently in circulation. The horse has long since left that barn, don't bother closing the door.... But for premeditated crimes, there's probably some validity to a criminal thinking twice about taking down a liquor store or convenience mart if they assume part of the clientele and ownership are CCL.

They had an 18 year old friend make the purchase. This criminal may very well have done the same thing. If the person holding a gun didn't obtain the weapon legally, it doesn't matter that the person who sold or gave it to them bought it legally. Obtaining a gun legally and then selling it or giving it to someone without a legal transfer is known as a "straw purchase", and is illegal. Cho was not a minor....he was 24 at the time of his death. He didn't obtain the guns "legally", because he falsified his permit applications. The failure of Virginia's background check system doesn't mean that guns need to be swept from our country. You can't regulate intent to harm. Some people kill others with their vehicles. Should we ban cars? Some kill using kitchen knives or baseball bats. Ban them? I'm confident that any attempt at banning cars, knives or bats will have the same result as any attempt to ban handguns....failure to curb crime. If you really thing that a white kid can't buy a handgun illegally with the greatest ease, you really need to do more research. That's the same premise as "white kids can't buy drugs in the inner city". They don't need to....drugs and guns are available in the most remote rural areas, the suburbs, just as well as downtown urban areas. It's everywhere. And just as the "war on drugs" is a massive fail, so too would be a "war on handguns".

___________________________ speaker facts: http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Speakers/EDS/EVM-15B%20Pro-line%20EDS.pdf I did overstate the speaker its 126.5 db @ 4' 400watts not 135db. range 50-5000 hz according to EV (the amplified sound from the horn was cut and pasted from an article on the web based on sound physics). where did you figure the efficiency range of (40-70 hz?) who the heck would buy a speaker with an efficiency range spread of 20hz ?? that would be insane.:poke: In all fairness, do you realize you're trying to argue technical deets with an EE who designs this stuff for a living? Agedhorse has likely forgotten more than either you or I will ever know about the subject. The online info you posted has little if anything to do with the SP1 or the EV speaker you're discussing. It's taken out of context and without any way to verify its veracity (a link would help here). To clarify the point you seem to be making here, Agedhorse isn't claiming the SP1's response range is only 20Hz wide. Read his post. He was stating that the SP1 is most efficient in that narrow 50-70Hz band. The box (as with most folded horns) is peaky, and response drops off rapidly below and above this relatively narrow band. To make a horn cabinet work in a wide band at such low frequencies demands a box even larger than the SP1. The LAB is a design that comes to mind in this regard. They are enormous, and also work best in multiples. Not many people want to or can invest that much space and weight into their rig. When there are so many light(er) speakers readily available, there's little wonder why the giant horns are relegated to museums and oddball DIY sites. So while for its time the SP1 was decent if not spectacular, in today's market, a huge box would need to have much better performance than this to be considered viable.

______________________________________ Cerwin-Vega AB-36C Afterburner 18" Folded Horn Subwoofer Speaker Cerwin-Vega TS-42 21" Folded Horn Subwoofer Cerwin-Vega EL-36C 18" Folded Horn Subwoofer Mackie SWA1501 Active High Output 15-Inch Subwoofer System (uses the floor as a virtual reflective horn) EAW LA400 Bent Bass Horn Subwoofer Viking Audio B36X 18" folded bass horn subwoofer PEAVEY PVDJ DJS-SUB 18-Inch Subwoofer - Folded Horn I thought you wrote, "high end and professional". The EAW example is about the only box in this list that could fit that description.

Not go horn loaded again? since you mention the "sub sounds" most of the high end and professional gear today use the folded horn or port design,... Such as?

Give me a front-loaded rig every time! Careful; the BFM Army is always watching.......:lem:

I think that says it all.

GERP! Great to see ya! I noticed you came back in a Yubby thread first. So tell us, how would you describe your own feelings about Yubby? In other words, if you could describe Yubby in, let's say, um, two words, what would it be? You know, come to think of it, I have noticed a pattern in GERP's posts. I'm not quite certain of this yet, but it's starting to gel.

kick ass You see, BOALG? Yubby makes all things possible! And Happy! Yay!!!!!

Craigv = yubby? NO! I already said I know Yubby! I am not Yubby! Yubby is not me! Yay!

yeah, he actually did, i feel very very loved Yay!!!!!

did you read that!? noob You don't feel the lub? Wait, Yubby will show you!!!!

Yubby have you ever killed a man? Yubby is never about the hate, or the killing. Yubby is about the lub.

Imagine if gerp showed up.

who is this yubby? I know, and it's fine, and I will never ever tell, so don't bother asking. This is old-school HCBF. Just feel the yub, I mean luv.

Yubby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :love::love:

What I said was "guilty of similar nonsense". I've shown how that is true. If either of you think it's worth that much effort, have at it, I'm not stopping you. I'm not running away from my statement in the least, if you don't think it's true, you haven't been listening to your party's windbags much over the last 20 years. I don't have a party, and if you keep being so cranky, nobody will ever invite you to theirs.

I'd have to go looking for it, but I'm quite certain I hear that threat used "if Gore / Kerry wins". I honestly can't be bothered to look right now, you're so interested, why don't you? I'm quite sure I can find a whole metric {censored}ton of the other "you don't agree with us, so you have to move" variant. Why so grumpy? I only asked so I could have a cheap laugh at the expense of some moron. Thanks Major Buzzkill.

I already moved from Montana to Oklahoma. What more do you want? You're in Oklahoma? You do know you're free to leave, right?

Those are, of course, the majority of the people I'm referring to. Their formulation of the statement is sometimes slightly different, of course - a roughly analogous statement is when they suggest (as several of them often have) that everyone who disagrees with them should move (or be forcibly moved) to some other country. The whole "move to France" thing in about 2002-2004 was a fairly representative example. So you can't name one Repub who threatened to leave the country? Oh come on.