Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 I had my SG Standard set-up perfectly, but needed to change some new pups.. but accidently broke the tune-o-matic bridge(snapped the side thumbwheels right off)... so, I bought a new one from stew-mac, and set it all up, I put the saddles from my broken one, onto the new tune-o-matic bridge, (the ones on the new one were unslotted ??! don't think they would work?) And now my action as I go up the neck has to be REAAL high to stop buzzing ! and even mid=-way up the neck.... the action seems good at the first few frets, but has to be huge the rest of the neck.... it's not a truss rod tweak, It was just adjusted properly... this guitar had the best action i've ever played before, so I know it's all good there... I want it super low like it was... not way up in the air.. Please help ? is it something with the new bridge that's causing this ? it's the nashville model tune-o-matic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 How did you break the bridge? If it fell or something, maybe the truss rod could use a tweaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Maess Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah, how does one break the thumb wheels off a TOM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Lol, I know... sounds bad.... it was actually stuck, and wouldn't come off, the strings were off any everything... but it wasstuck... so I pulled up with all my mite, and the screws broke off both side... not a big deal since I replaced it wit hthe new bridge, but now the action is all screwy... buzzing crazy... dosen't want to stay low through the whole length of the neck... Truss rod isn't it... because it dose it pretty much on every fret besides maybe the first 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Lol, I know... sounds bad.... it was actually stuck, and wouldn't come off, the strings were off any everything... but it wasstuck... so I pulled up with all my mite, and the screws broke off both side... not a big deal since I replaced it wit hthe new bridge, but now the action is all screwy... buzzing crazy... dosen't want to stay low through the whole length of the neck...Truss rod isn't it... because it dose it pretty much on every fret besides maybe the first 2... If I am understanding what you are saying, this would indicate the truss rod needs adjusting. I am assuming it sat, unstrung, at least for a couple of days while you waited for the new bridge to come in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onerailunder Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Could the buzzing be coming from the bridge? You mentioned replacing the saddles, are the ring clips, or retainer spring installed properly, etc. etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Maess Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Could the buzzing be coming from the bridge? You mentioned replacing the saddles, are the ring clips, or retainer spring installed properly, etc. etc? Hmm the OP managed to snap off his bridge posts, I'd be tickled pink if he installed the saddles correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 It has the same little triangle clips or whatever came with the new one... no springs or anything were on the new or old one... so I dunno ? Yes the guitar sat for 2 or 3 days until I got the new bridge... ? Don't you just screw the saddles in... thats what it seemed to do... I have them turned the correct way if that's what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Pictures. Your description is weird. Why were you changing new pickups?There aren't "side" thumbwheels...what do you mean? Include a shot looking down the neck starting at the nut. troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 what do you mean troll ? I will try n get a pic, you know the thumbwheels that adjust action... on one each side.... I was changing my pickups to Duncan Invaders.... I change pickups all the time, and never had problems with the bridge, but this time it was stuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 what do you mean troll ?I will try n get a pic, you know the thumbwheels that adjust action... on one each side....I was changing my pickups to Duncan Invaders.... I change pickups all the time, and never had problems with the bridge, but this time it was stuck... It was a question. Are you a troll?...because I will not help you if you're just wasting time. We can't tell you what's going on without seeing the guitar. Your descriptions aren't clear enough. Come back with CLEAR pictures. Or tell us when you get a camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Maess Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 what do you mean troll ?I will try n get a pic, you know the thumbwheels that adjust action... on one each side....I was changing my pickups to Duncan Invaders.... I change pickups all the time, and never had problems with the bridge, but this time it was stuck... Eh, why were you having to move the bridge to change pups? Were you trying to not have to take off the strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 No, the strings I removed.... the pickups are mounted through the pickguard.... like all newer sg's... no mounting rings... so for the pickguard to come off, the bridge has to come off (the bridge is placed through the guard , dumb idea IMO) so the guard couldn't come off unless the bridge is off... I' have changed the pups out of this guitar a couple times, and the bridge never had trouble being stuck... but this time was a different story... ~Abstract~ - Not a troll, just sorely in need of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 GO GET A CAMERA we'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 If you left your guitar without strings for a few days, it may need readjusting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 If you left your guitar without strings for a few days, it may need readjusting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Your quite grumpy. I agree with jojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Maess Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah, with no tension from the strings, its quite possible for the neck to go to a state where there isn't enough relief, which sounds a bit like he describes, although I think he messed up the saddles when he put them in, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Okay, I will take a photo, of the bridge, and one standing above the guitar, so you guys can determine if the problem is in the truss rod, or the bridge, or neither. be right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Okay, here's a photo of the neck relief, which as I said, looks just about right. and 2 of the new bridge... dose everything look proper ? the resistance clips, and everything ? I'm thinking now that is might actually be the saddles or something buzzing it out ? it still dose it even with the action VERY high.... any clues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pinkrudy Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 so you tried playing with the truss rod and couldnt fix the buzz? then maybe that bridge was for wrong type of sg.. or all they all the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stooges_Fan Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 correct bridge... Hey guys, do the little retainer clips look right in the bridge picture ? Could they be whats causing the buzzing, even on open strings all the way up the whole neck ? It's not the nut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lenduffy Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Are the saddles in their correct positions? Did you mix 'em up accidentally? Wrong slot widths could be the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mc5nrg Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 Raise the stop so the strimgs aren't rubbing the back of the bridge if they are. I read your thread on another forum...where in MI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted May 1, 2009 Members Share Posted May 1, 2009 OK I guess we need to figure out if this is fret buzz or just a random buzzing somewhere else. Did you move the stoptail at all? How do the screws fit into the studs underneath the bridge? Are they really loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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