Members JohnLucente Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 man that grain popps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 So is it just going to be the 8 coats of tung oil or will there be another step to the final finish? How long do you have to wait in between coats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 man that grain poppsI know!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 So is it just going to be the 8 coats of tung oil or will there be another step to the final finish? How long do you have to wait in between coats?It's the first time I've done a finish like this, so I'm just going by the book. I'm going to keep putting the coats on until it looks right, 24 hours between coats. I'll be scuffing the surface with 320 grit no-load paper every two coats or so.That's the plan anyway, I guess it depends on the weather a bit. The tung oil cures by reaction with oxygen from the air. If it's cold, that reaction will be slower. The first couple of coats are let down by 20-30% with white spirits, so I'm doing that outside. The later coats shouldn't be so smelly, so I'll see if I can sneak it into the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meandi Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Just another 7 coats to go... The tung oil imparts such a warm organic glow to the wood.One thing that always fascinates me are the wonderful surprises & variations that appear in the grain lines when shapes are cut into the wood, as in the bevel cut for the tailpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jsegovia Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Absolutely beautiful. I am really enjoying this thread. But a question: why the Capri, and not one of Lennon's later black guitars? Jesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 It's the first time I've done a finish like this, so I'm just going by the book. I'm going to keep putting the coats on until it looks right, 24 hours between coats. I'll be scuffing the surface with 320 grit no-load paper every two coats or so. That's the plan anyway, I guess it depends on the weather a bit. The tung oil cures by reaction with oxygen from the air. If it's cold, that reaction will be slower. The first couple of coats are let down by 20-30% with white spirits, so I'm doing that outside. The later coats shouldn't be so smelly, so I'll see if I can sneak it into the house. I can see why you have to wait 24 hours between coats if you're drinking 20-30% of those white spirits with every coat! Man, you should take it easy on that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnLucente Posted November 8, 2010 Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 I can see why you have to wait 24 hours between coats if you're drinking 20-30% of those white spirits with every coat! Man, you should take it easy on that stuff. Niiice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 The tung oil imparts such a warm organic glow to the wood. One thing that always fascinates me are the wonderful surprises & variations that appear in the grain lines when shapes are cut into the wood, as in the bevel cut for the tailpiece. To be honest, I had always meant to paint this black (that's how I picture John's Capri), but when I saw that grain pattern in the bevel, I wanted to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 Absolutely beautiful. I am really enjoying this thread. But a question: why the Capri, and not one of Lennon's later black guitars?Jesse Colour part answered above, hopefully. Also, this was the first guitar I pictured John with. I didn't really know that much about his guitars, so when I found the build thread in the original post I thought, "that'll do!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2010 I can see why you have to wait 24 hours between coats if you're drinking 20-30% of those white spirits with every coat! Man, you should take it easy on that stuff. If I was drinking this stuff with every coat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 9, 2010 Members Share Posted November 9, 2010 If I was drinking this stuff with every coat... Yes, Mike, we want to keep you around so you can keep sharing your builds with us, so stay out of the white spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 So, I'm patiently waiting for more pics of your nice project. Are you going to keep us waiting much longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 So, I'm patiently waiting for more pics of your nice project. Are you going to keep us waiting much longer?Yup! :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarSlim101 Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Looks great so far! That radius block idea is bloody brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Looks great so far! That radius block idea is bloody brilliant.Not sure that was my idea or whether I saw it somewhere else. I've been thinking about this for years and I forget where all the information comes from! Dropped into your new build thread BTW...that's a huge hunk of walnut!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 10, 2010 Members Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yup! :wave: That's what I thought. Just stay out of the spirits and keep working on that git. I want to see the finished product! Regards, Steadfastly.l:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2010 :confused:Tung oil finish doesn't seem to be curing very well at the moment. Not sure if it's the miserable weather or I'm trying to put too much on or what.I'm using Liberon pure tung oil. It doesn't have any lacquer, mineral spirits or driers in, so I expected it to take a while to cure, but I left the second coat for three days in the kitchen and when I came to flat it slightly for the next coat it was sort of cheesy. It just rolled up and stuck to the no-load paper. It felt like I could just scrape it off with my fingernail.Anyone got any experience/advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meandi Posted November 12, 2010 Members Share Posted November 12, 2010 Did you leave a heavy coat on the guitar? With the Behlen that I use, the instructions say, after rubbing the material into the wood, let it set for 15 minutes & wipe off the excess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 12, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2010 Did you leave a heavy coat on the guitar? With the Behlen that I use, the instructions say, after rubbing the material into the wood, let it set for 15 minutes & wipe off the excess. Yeah, I think I was a bit impatient, trying to get it on too fast. I am a very different animal to you Meandi!!!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 14, 2010 Members Share Posted November 14, 2010 Mike: Yes, it has to go on thin. How is the last coat looking now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 14, 2010 Mike: Yes, it has to go on thin. How is the last coat looking now? Yeah, I flatted it back and applied a thinner coat...it's feeling better now. Noob mistake I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted November 16, 2010 Members Share Posted November 16, 2010 Yeah, I flatted it back and applied a thinner coat...it's feeling better now. Noob mistake I guess! Well, sometimes mistakes can be our best teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thick_mike Posted November 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2010 Well, sometimes mistakes can be our best teachers.I hope my students think so!! I always tell them that if they've never got something wrong, they've never learned anything.Put another coat of oil on tonight. That's 5 so far. It's going slowly as I'm in the middle of mid unit tests and marking at work. November isn't a good month in schools (not as good as August for example ).Please keep up the nagging BTW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarSlim101 Posted November 17, 2010 Members Share Posted November 17, 2010 Not sure that was my idea or whether I saw it somewhere else. I've been thinking about this for years and I forget where all the information comes from! Dropped into your new build thread BTW...that's a huge hunk of walnut!! Yep, it was a big one. Fairly friendly to work with, though. It'll be nice to get all of the details ironed out on that one.Good luck with the rest of the tung oil. It may take a while to do, but it is a lovely feeling and lovely looking finish when it's all done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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