Members kct666 Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 ok guys, so i've got a bacchus tele (lipstick not HB at the neck though) and I can plug it into a 35 SS amp with bass, mid and treble control, reverb and OD available too i am having trouble hearing the guitar part - it seems clean, trebly, slight OD perhaps? what settings on the guitar vol and tone knob, and the amp eq do you recommend to get something close to 'all down the line', 'rocks off'...thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 Well...You have a Telecaster style guitar now all you need to do to nail that tone is play it through a Fender Twin maxed out. Somehow I doubt your neighbors will enjoy it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Felix959 Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 Keith played a number of guitars through a number of amps on that album. I think it bears mentioning that for the standard-tuned guitar parts (like "Rocks Off"), he was playing some kind of humbucker-equipped Gibson, like a Les Paul or an ES-335. On open-G songs, like "All Down the Line," he was playing the Telecaster. Are you familiar with open-G tuning? You can see both Ampegs and Fenders in this photo from the recording session. Here you can see a Fender Champ and some other heads I can't identify. So I guess the answer is they used Ampegs and a bunch of Silverface Fenders. Those aren't high-gain amps, and Keith always got his signature tone by just cranking the living daylights out of whatever he was playing through for a healthy dose of power tube distortion. I don't know what kind of solid state amp you have, but if you have a "gain" knob, I'd set it so there's just a little bit of dirt in your signal. To my ears, Keith's tone on "Rocks Off" sounds cleaner and more trebly than "All Down the Line." That should be no problem at all with a Telecaster bridge pickup (and that's DEFINITELY a bridge-pickup song). "All Down the Line" sounds to me like there's more mids and more dirt. Of course, it's also played with a lot more abandon than "Rocks Off," which features some very specific two-string picking from Keith. Honestly, I think it's far less about EQ settings and far more about copping Keith's feel, which is slinky, choppy and frequently ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 [video=youtube;0j6GYS-Beyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j6GYS-Beyk&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mjak Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 The tone is in the bunny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted July 24, 2011 Members Share Posted July 24, 2011 Honestly, I think it's far less about EQ settings and far more about copping Keith's feel, which is slinky, choppy and frequently ecstatic. Maybe it has something to do with whatever is on the top of that big cabinet in the foreground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted July 25, 2011 Members Share Posted July 25, 2011 Considering the debauched and generally {censored}e conditions under which that record was recorded, it's quite hard to get the studio tone. That being said, bridge pickup, and, most importantly, more volume than gain, adjust treble to taste and have the bass somewhere in between the mids and the treble to get that dark feel. Roll of the volume on the guitar for the darker tracks, or lower the volume and raise the gain. But as was already said, a lot of that 'tone' is really the vibe that his playing on that album gives off, dark and rough, which is also reflected in how it was recorded. Also, take everything you read in this thread as a rough guide, a lot of the sound comes from you/the way you play, so you may need to alter things to accommodate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kct666 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2011 hi felix 959, thanks for the tips, yes the tele is in open G...my SS is a 30 watt laney lg35r...will tweak again later...maybe i need to get some fender tube amps btw great photos! stratocaster202, will try those things thanks man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kct666 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2011 comparing the rhythm between exile and sticky fingers - sticky fingers songs like bitch / sway / brown sugar, i can somehow cop, some crunch - exile guitar sounds less overdriven, though overall mood is dark (the songs, not the guitar parts)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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