Members EvilSoup Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 It's kind of like being given a bad instrument, not much you can do with it. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 you can work at it and improve your tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 although you can improve tone only so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 although you can improve tone only so much. change genres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 i'm already in the genre closest to my voice type. you tell me http://www.myspace.com/throughtheforests song "look up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 breathing is your problem which is cuasing poor projection and that vocal tone. the actuall sound of your voice is actually pretty good. Once you get past those technical issues. You are a bit pitchy at times. but this is likely cuased by your incosistent projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 I hope you're right. I'm just frustrated since every other other instrument I practice in sees improvement, but I just keep going in circles with singing. Everyone says that my tone is actually good, but I just can't hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted January 10, 2010 Members Share Posted January 10, 2010 I hope you're right. I'm just frustrated since every other other instrument I practice in sees improvement, but I just keep going in circles with singing. Everyone says that my tone is actually good, but I just can't hear it. Got a kinda of violent femes quality about it. Thats not a bad thing either. go see a vocal coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Got a kinda of violent femes quality about it. Thats not a bad thing either. That's not the first time I've heard that either. People also say I sound like Beirut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dthraco Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Listened. Your voice doesn't have bad tone. Your ability just needs work. I think you could have a very good voice after some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 I feel like I'm hearing something completely different than everyone else. I know it's natural to dislike your own voice, but I didn't think my perception would be so off. It's really hard to work on something that you have a distorted perspective of; kind of like trying to mix a song with bad monitors. I suppose that's the reason for the coach. I'm just so used to teaching myself everything though, it feels weird to not have control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members piersonm Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Much like the rest of you singers, I gargle semen....because ya'll are fags. Protein FTW! Boom Nutshot...in ya throat. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an Everquest character that needs my attention. Goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Can you put that in a Soundclick account? www.soundclick.com I can never listen to songs on Myspace anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Can you put that in a Soundclick account? www.soundclick.com I can never listen to songs on Myspace anymore. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8595273 I also have a newer song I haven't written lyrics and sung for yet, because so far I haven't been satisfied with the result. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8595390 I like to do all of the instruments/recording myself, as well as being self taught. Also although the Look Up track has drum loops in it, in this song I'm playing my drum kit. However I just can't seem to get my singing to a point where I like it, and right now it's the weak link in the chain. I feel as though it brings everything else down. But then again you may hear it differently. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Wow, that song’s really nice, the one with no lyrics yet. It’s very laid back and breezy. It sounds completely polished and professional to me. Makes my own creations sound like kid’s work. *cringe* Look Up…I’m just listening now…your voice has a GOOD quality in my opinion. It’s not a boring boy-band type voice…it’s interesting…it could go places I think, seriously. I really like the song itself too. It’s cool. Also, if you just don’t particularly care for your specific sound of voice (being unique from anyone else’s), that’s where the various EQ things, reverb things, and other subtle effects come in that you can use in a studio or at home…to try to soften or de-emphasise whatever it is you’re not liking in your voice… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Wow, that song’s really nice, the one with no lyrics yet. It’s very laid back and breezy. It sounds completely polished and professional to me. Makes my own creations sound like kid’s work. *cringe* Look Up…I’m just listening now…your voice has a GOOD quality in my opinion. It’s not a boring boy-band type voice…it’s interesting…it could go places I think, seriously. I really like the song itself too. It’s cool. Also, if you just don’t particularly care for your specific sound of voice (being unique from anyone else’s), that’s where the various EQ things, reverb things, and other subtle effects come in that you can use in a studio or at home…to try to soften or de-emphasise whatever it is you’re not liking in your voice… Thanks for listening and for the thoughts. Only if I liked my voice as much as everyone else did. I might be a bit more productive then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 That could be me speaking those words about my own voice. I have NEVER liked my own “unique” tone. UGH. I find it repellent and awkward, but am slowly coming to accept it more…and I love singing, so I have to do it regardless of my own dislike of how I sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 That could be me speaking those words about my own voice. I have NEVER liked my own “unique” tone. UGH. I find it repellent and awkward, but am slowly coming to accept it more…and I love singing, so I have to do it regardless of my own dislike of how I sound. But you have an incredible voice! I guess I'm not alone in this. Some of my favorite artists also despise their vocals too. "It annoys me how pretty my voice is... how polite it can sound when perhaps what I'm singing is deeply acidic." - Thom Yorke Also Lennon hated his voice, and that is why he tried to cover it up so much with effects in the Beatles. I guess our recorded voices must fall in the uncanny valley, as they are not close enough to sound like the voice in our head, but aren't different enough to sound like another person. I still can't quite wrap my brain around it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grace_slick Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 LOL, what the hell’s that thing there!? Zombie!? Robot? It’s gone right over my rather stupid head! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChrisAlgoo Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 My singing teacher had a great response when I asked her if a person's voice could hold them back- What would sound better - a Stradivarius being played by a first-year student, or a cheap violin in the hands of a master? Works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 What would sound better - a Stradivarius being played by a first-year student, or a cheap violin in the hands of a master? Obviously the latter, but neither of them would be able play at Carnegie Hall. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dthraco Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Much like the rest of you singers, I gargle semen....because ya'll are fags. Protein FTW! Boom Nutshot...in ya throat. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an Everquest character that needs my attention. Goodnight. Therapy. Get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Tone certainly can be improved through voical training. Consider the many voices that Bob Dylan and David Bowie have adopted over the years. Consider vocal ventriloquists, who can shape their voices on the fly to mimic the tone of famous singers. These examples may not always constitute improvement, but they do support the notion that tone can be changed. As far as liking one's own voice is concerned, the problem is that the heightened resonance of internal hearing (bone conduction, etc.) produces an exaggerated reaction when we listen to our voices without this extra sweetener. The truth is that neither of these experiences is true. Inside our heads we sound better than we really do, and on the outside we don't sound nearly as bad to others as we do to ourselves. What we hear on the outside is the naked voice stripped of that sweet resonance (), but other people of course don't have access to this inner resonance and hence are necessarily more objective. Needless to say, pitch is pitch, so pitch is not affected by the inside/outside distinction. But tone is affected--mightly so, I might add. For most people singing is an act of faith. It is true that repeated listening to oneself can help a lot. I record and listen to myself almost every day, and I've slowly come to like my voice--although relapses are frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilSoup Posted January 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 Tone certainly can be improved through voical training. Consider the many voices that Bob Dylan and David Bowie have adopted over the years. Consider vocal ventriloquists, who can shape their voices on the fly to mimic the tone of famous singers. These examples may not always constitute improvement, but they do support the notion that tone can be changed. As far as liking one's own voice is concerned, the problem is that the heightened resonance of internal hearing (bone conduction, etc.) produces an exaggerated reaction when we listen to our voices without this extra sweetener. The truth is that neither of these experiences is true. Inside our heads we sound better than we really do, and on the outside we don't sound nearly as bad to others as we do to ourselves. What we hear on the outside is the naked voice stripped of that sweet resonance ( ), but other people of course don't have access to this inner resonance and hence are necessarily more objective. Needless to say, pitch is pitch, so pitch is not affected by the inside/outside distinction. But tone is affected--mightly so, I might add. For most people singing is an act of faith. It is true that repeated listening to oneself can help a lot. I record and listen to myself almost every day, and I've slowly come to like my voice--although relapses are frequent. Good post. :phil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jvardon Posted January 11, 2010 Members Share Posted January 11, 2010 what do i do??............hmmmmm suck it and sing anyway. my bad tone never goes away.Though some exercises seem to help sumtyms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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