Members Thunderbroom Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 I was practicing last night (great byproduct of having my internet down). I was noodling in the higher registers and was thinking about how cool it would be to be able to layer stuff. I've been asked numerous times to do a solo piece at my buddhist meetings but have declined. I'm convinced that I could come up with something cool if I could add some texture. Here's what I know: I'd like to buy once so cost is the least concerning factor. Since I don't know jack about them, I'm open to suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Melville Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 There's the Boomerang, but I can't remember who makes it off hand.Boss also makes one that's pretty popular with the acoustic guitar crowd that does looping like this (Howie Day, KT Tunstell's early stuff), but I can't remember the model name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super_Donut_Man Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Well I have been wanting a Line 6 delay modeler (I think thats it... the green one anyways). I have used a few just fooling around with an organ and drum machine. It does looping, delay effects, reverse. I am just waiting a few years for the wife to approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members birdboy7007 Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Well I have been wanting a Line 6 delay modeler (I think thats it... the green one anyways). I have used a few just fooling around with an organ and drum machine. It does looping, delay effects, reverse. I am just waiting a few years for the wife to approve. My guitarist had the Line 6 for awhile. It worked well, but towards the end it started crapping out fairly consistently, and he babies his pedals. He then went for the Boss RC20XL which is great, probably just right for what you want to do Thunderbroom. Very straightforward, easy to use, and works great. My guitarist has since upgraded to the RC50 which is massive, and complete overkill. Though it was some very sweet features. I have the RC20XL now, and I enjoy it. Perfect for what I wanted to do with it, plenty of recording time, and like I said, quite intuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lyricpoet Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Boomerang is made by Boomerang...look in the back of BP in the classifieds for an advert. Or google it. You can buy it direct, I believe. Les Claypool uses it exclusively for his loops. 'tho I can't stand Les Claypool- another Myung with no auditory human soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 If you want a simple, reliable tool, the Akai Headrush is your best bet.Overdub, erase one step, tap tempo, all you need is here. If you want more possibilities like keeping several lines in memory even when the machine is off, reverse loops and stuff, the Digitech Jamman is in my opinion the best idea.Boss has very decent products (RC series) but I'm not a fan. Not very intuitive or user friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fireball_73 Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 If you like loopers then you will like this clip from a DVD I have. It's Michael Manring playing a version of Teen Town with lots of loopers. This was the first time I ever saw a fretless bass being played - and I remember thinking I'll never have a bass like that! But I was wrong! A concrete teen town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Undead Sycip Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Bang for the buck: DL4 Most flexible: Digitech Jam Man. It takes SD cards so it will grow with you. It is also very easy to use. The Boomerang was good then but the new breed of loopers leave it in the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clatter Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 I really like my Boomerang. Simple, easy to use. I've been thinking I really need to get busy with it, especially after seeing two great looping performers this summer: Steve Lawson and Liam Finn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Liam Finn.YES. Were you at the Uptown show? What the hell is that kid using? One looper, or ten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 Uh...Hello??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 26, 2007 Members Share Posted August 26, 2007 if you want to try my RC-2 out, your more than welcome to. I love it. I've been using it a lot for practice stuff. I find it's pretty simple to use. EDIT: I have the 2, not the 20. I used to have the 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clatter Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 YES. Were you at the Uptown show?What the hell is that kid using? One looper, or ten? Hell yeah. I figured you must have been around there somewhere! A religious experience, to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clatter Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 It gets cool at 4:00And this one's just fun as hell Cool! Here's a really awful video of Liam in NY that I found; it doesn't really do him justice, but if you start watching around 3:30, you'll see how crazy talented he is. I played with my Boomerang today and felt so inadequate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted August 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 Posting from my phone is both cool and sucky. I may take you up on your offer Dugan. I'm gonna do a bit more research when I get a decent connection again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted August 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 After watching these videos, maybe I don't want a looper afterall. So...at what point does this become a crapshoot? I've scoped the loopers mentioned here and it seems like the Jam Man has "more" than the others. I'm not sure though is more is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catphish Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 I'm not sure though is more is better. IMO, it's not. I downsized from the RC-20 to an RC-2 because it was more than I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 My guitarist had the Line 6 for awhile. It worked well, but towards the end it started crapping out fairly consistently, and he babies his pedals. I've heard the same story from two other units. On paper, they are sweet. But I've just head too many stories like this to buy one. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I can remember, you can't erase mistakes on the Line6 DL4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 You can overdub, but I don't think you can erase a step. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clatter Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 After watching these videos, maybe I don't want a looper afterall. So...at what point does this become a crapshoot? I've scoped the loopers mentioned here and it seems like the Jam Man has "more" than the others. I'm not sure though is more is better. Everybody starts somewhere! Maybe you'll come up with some cool way of looping no one has thought of yet. I would just start with whatever unit looks easiest and less intimidating to use, then you can upgrade to something more sophisticated later if you feel you really need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 Best commercial ever for the Headrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 Steve Lawson was really very good at it. I have an inkling as to how to approach it, but quite honestly as cool as it is in the hands of someone who's got it down, it's also very confining IMO. Fripp can do it so well it's scary, but ultimately you've got a guy playing a little, twiddling a little and staring at his feet a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted August 27, 2007 Members Share Posted August 27, 2007 After watching these videos, maybe I don't want a looper afterall. So...at what point does this become a crapshoot? I've scoped the loopers mentioned here and it seems like the Jam Man has "more" than the others. I'm not sure though is more is better. If you want simplicity - ease of use, looping one or two parts and then playing over them, not worried about stopping/starting or deleting separate parts - then get a Headrush. There really is no substitute. If you have one for a while, like the idea, but wish for more functionality, then sell it and upgrade to a more feature-rich unit. The JamMan does an awful lot in a small package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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