Members toolbar Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 Christmas eve and we forgot gifts for two kids. Ms. toolbar is gonna have to go somewhere to get them today. She's been baking all morning for gifts - coffee cake, lasagna (from scratch - noodles and all - very yummy). I had to rewire a light fixture and my kids are being good. We have to be at her sister's house about 5:00pm and there is still lots to do. We'll stay up most of the night getting 'santa' gifts wrapped because the kids probably won't go to bed until late and we'll have make sure they're asleep before we can get anything out. We'll drink a bottle of wine, though, while we wait, so it won't be all bad. My boys are 8 and 11 and still believe in SC. I don't remember when I figgered it out. Christmas will be a lot easier when santa is no more. I have my opinion about Christmas and SC aint it. My questions are: do your kids believe in SC, how old are they, and if not when did they discover that YOU are SC? Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dert_stylus Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 My 9 y/o has his doubts , but he does not want to make the mistake of not believing and then his gifts go missing that year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 I don't have kids, but I think I was 8 when I caught on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassdudeguy Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 i caught on around 8-9 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 24, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 24, 2007 My questions are: do your kids believe in SC, how old are they, and if not when did they discover that YOU are SC? My son is 2 and he knows Santa is a story and nothing more. I don't believe in lying to kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 My son is 2 and he knows Santa is a story and nothing more. I don't believe in lying to kids. I think that's a little harsh, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hearafter Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 My son is 2 and he knows Santa is a story and nothing more. I don't believe in lying to kids. Yeouch, Kindness! Lying to kids is easy... try it out. To answer the OP question, I caught on around 7 or so... I remember my cousin still believed in Santa at age 9 (I was 12 then), and we thought he was waaay too old to believe. It may be time to break it to the 11 year old.:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Derek5272 Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 Wait... You guys don't believe in Santa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 24, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 24, 2007 I think that's a little harsh, don't you? Not one bit. I don't get the concept of lying to kids. I treat my son with respect. I don't talk down to him and I don't lie to him. There are enough people out there that are going to play mind games with him. He has to know he can trust me all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members toolbar Posted December 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 My son is 2 and he knows Santa is a story and nothing more. I don't believe in lying to kids. This was what I wanted, too. I always told my kids there ain't no santa, but my wife makes me do the get up on Christmas morning thing. The kids think I'm crazy when i say 'there aint no santa claus'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassin' 'Round Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 ...I STILL believe & I think it's sad for anyone who doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jannda Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 I must have been bad cuz santa ain't bringun me or any body else in the jannda house anything this year. And yes I'm really bummed I haven't been this down in many years but I do hope everyone here has a very merry christmas and a very HAPPY new year. And those aren't just words I mean it sinceraly from the bottom of my very empty wallet LOL really have a happy Christmas and a Merry new year and be safe If you party.Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Low Tone Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 At one point in time St. Niccholas did exist and was the foundation for our modern day Santa. It's also good to have a little faith in the giving spirit of the holiday. Our chubby guy in the red suit comes from the story/poem "T'was The Night Before Christmas" written in 1823 and modernized by the Coca Cola company in 1931. Personally, I like this version of Santa better. [YOUTUBE]c_pHl-2PMOI[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xbassman Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 Not one bit. I don't get the concept of lying to kids. I treat my son with respect. I don't talk down to him and I don't lie to him. There are enough people out there that are going to play mind games with him. He has to know he can trust me all the time. I'll never forget when my son figured out about Santa! He said, "You mean you lied to me!?" My heart sunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdb Posted December 24, 2007 Members Share Posted December 24, 2007 My son is 2 and he knows Santa is a story and nothing more. I don't believe in lying to kids. my kids never, ever believed. most jewish kids dont... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Not one bit. I don't get the concept of lying to kids. I treat my son with respect. I don't talk down to him and I don't lie to him. There are enough people out there that are going to play mind games with him. He has to know he can trust me all the time. Wonderful! Nothing like telling your kids like it is! Don't bring any magic or wonder into their lives. Just present them with the realities of the world. In fact, don't give them presents or even celibrate Christmas because we all know it's just a sham and so commercial. Just throw the kid a carton of cigarettes and say "Smoke up Johnny!" Because we all know how screwed up everyone is because THEY were led to believe there was a Santa Claus. /sarcasm off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Wonderful! Nothing like telling your kids like it is! Don't bring any magic or wonder into their lives. Just present them with the realities of the world. In fact, don't give them presents or even celibrate Christmas because we all know it's just a sham and so commercial. Just throw the kid a carton of cigarettes and say "Smoke up Johnny!"Because we all know how screwed up everyone is because THEY were led to believe there was a Santa Claus. /sarcasm off Actually, I'm going to back Kindness on this one. I remember figuring out at around 7 or 8...and breaking it to some classmates that there was no Santa...I actually got in trouble and went to the office for it because it "made kids question their parents and their parents moral value". Screw that. At that age, you don't see it as a "fun thing" to believe in, it's actually something you constantly think on and what not...that's NOT how I want my kids to think anyway. Sure, it's not so "special" but honestly, if Santa is what makes Christmas special, screw the holiday anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdb Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Wonderful! Nothing like telling your kids like it is! Don't bring any magic or wonder into their lives. Just present them with the realities of the world. In fact, don't give them presents or even celibrate Christmas because we all know it's just a sham and so commercial. Just throw the kid a carton of cigarettes and say "Smoke up Johnny!"Because we all know how screwed up everyone is because THEY were led to believe there was a Santa Claus. /sarcasm off if by magic or wonder you mean bull{censored} and dark ages mythology... you'll deal with the psychic consequences later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 25, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 25, 2007 I'll never forget when my son figured out about Santa! He said, "You mean you lied to me!?" My heart sunk! I think it is a very personal decision/experience, but I simply can't stomach the idea of playing games with my son's trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W33nie Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 I don't think i every really believed. I always knew it was crap but played along with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankthomson Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 8 & 12 and they still believe i'll tell em when they're, like, 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny_Crab Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 10 or so. I always looked at Santa differently after moving to Texas. I named him Santos, the guy who tried his best to empty my bank account and mis-direct people at Christmas time. What really opens your eyes is when the "GREAT NEW STUFF FROM SANTA" is old news by the next day and file cabinet boxes brought home from work that they made into "houses" get more playtime. That said, wifey is in New Orleans at her Mom's so.... me, our 15 year old, and our 17 year old played Santa yesterday for each other. A great day. Now that I'm older, :thu: to the idea of not lying to your children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted December 25, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 25, 2007 Wonderful! Nothing like telling your kids like it is! Don't bring any magic or wonder into their lives. Just present them with the realities of the world. In fact, don't give them presents or even celibrate Christmas because we all know it's just a sham and so commercial. Just throw the kid a carton of cigarettes and say "Smoke up Johnny!"Because we all know how screwed up everyone is because THEY were led to believe there was a Santa Claus. /sarcasm off You definitely don't have to agree with me. Most don't. Enough respected child development specialists do that I know I'm not out of my mind. Sean and I have lots of fun with 'magic and wonder' in reading, coloring pictures, playing with toys and telling stories. For me it is more important for Sean to learn lessons about trust and respect than Santa. Believe me, there was no shortage of excitement at our house this Christmas (we celebrated yesterday). To the OP, I remember when I was 8 having to tell my parents that they could continue to lie to my younger sisters and I wouldn't blow their cover, but that I had known for 3 years that they had been lying to me, even when asked direct questions about them being Santa. By the time I was 5 I had a good enough understanding of facial expressions, tone of voice and body language to seriously doubt the existence of Santa (if only my physics had been up to snuff). A quick scouting mission at my house and my friend Jeremy's house that year confirmed my guess. I have to think that your 8 year old has doubts and the 11 year old is just playing along so as to not rock the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceGhost Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 I believed it as a kid. My parents also told me a skinny jewish hippie died for me. I don't know what to believe anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Kindness was a damn 007 toddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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