Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 This weekend's gig is looking like we are going to have to bring our 1200 watt rack PA. The house one is {censored} and this place is SMALL. Like large living room small. Was wondering who has experience with this and if anyone has suggestions that lean on the 'not pulverizing our audience' side? Also, I was wondering if I should bother bringing my amp. ( Noob question, I know ) Any thoughts would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 You can always turn down but you can't always turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 True. I dunno. I would like to save the labor of actually bringing this monster but I also want everyone to be able to hear themselves well and not get lost in mud. So far, the drummer thinks it's a bad idea to bring it though I have yet to ask him his reasoning. Guess I'm just bein' a puss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 You could leave the rack in the van/trailer and try out the house PA and see how it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 This too. I have never played a venue this small with such a large PA...that sounds kinky!...are there problems I should expect/look for? I don't do sound so I'm a little in the dark. By the way Oldivor, sorry for starting trouble in your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Are you literally talking about a 20 person capacity place, or a small ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 about 100...shoulder to shoulder including the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldivor Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 This too. I have never played a venue this small with such a large PA...that sounds kinky!...are there problems I should expect/look for? I don't do sound so I'm a little in the dark. By the way Oldivor, sorry for starting trouble in your thread. Hhmmm problems, see if you can testing the PA out and you should be able to playing hard without clipping(preferably). Of course if it sounds bad you might want to use your PA, then again it could be the room also... The main thing would be if it's clipping though. What thread? haha I really don't care either way. Everyone has bad days or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 I play in venues that small with 3kw rms delivered FOH, and 1kw rms monitors, + a bass amp. I say bring it. (you did say 1200 watt, and not 12,000 right) 1200 isn't really that much power for a PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 I think it's up there. There are two Crown's...I may be off by WAY much. I will call my guitard and post the specs later. Think I might have actually posted in another thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 I play square in the middle of one Bruno Underground 30, and one Bruno Cowtipper. Directly behind me is a SWR 750 with an Epifani 410. Just above that and directly behind my head is a Yorkville monitor linked with a QSC a Crown Power amp poweing two massive LA P.A. speakers on either side of the room (4000 watts capable) which also runs keys. Both guitarists believe that their tone isn't right unless cranked way up, which I can understand....because I have to crank mine too!!!(Bruno prototype all tube bass preamp behind a Sansamp BDDI) This room is small(a wonder the PA alone doesn't blow the power out) and I've been playing in this format every week for the last six months. I JUST bought a set of pro earplugs, and I am gonna be kicking myself for the next six months for not doing it sooner. This is from anoher forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Ouch, a couple of 35-40 watt tube heads cranked. Is your drummer a heavy hitter? I think you will need some PA just to hear the vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Ouch, a couple of 35-40 watt tube heads cranked. Is your drummer a heavy hitter? I think you will need some PA just to hear the vocals. The mix in't really the problem ( if you dont count guitars!),it's just the SIZE of the PA. I was curious if such a small room would be prone to issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members gspointer Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 The mix in't really the problem ( if you dont count guitars!),it's just the SIZE of the PA. I was curious if such a small room would be prone to issues. We are just talking about 2 (I assume EAW LA series) speakers? That is not very big. Each has what, a 2x2 footprint? Turn em in some, (I assume 90 degree horns) try to get the horns over 6' up. Watch the reflections and use the EQ. I really don't understand the quandary. Are you actually talking about a 70's PA with w bins, perkins etc.? The PA has a volume fader, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 We are just talking about 2 (I assume EAW LA series) speakers? That is not very big. Each has what, a 2x2 footprint? Turn em in some, (I assume 90 degree horns) try to get the horns over 6' up. Watch the reflections and use the EQ. I really don't understand the quandary. Are you actually talking about a 70's PA with w bins, perkins etc.? The PA has a volume fader, use it. K. Now I must convince the old farts I play with that since THEY are the ones with mini-vans, it will be THEY who lug it. I luv playing the dumb bass guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 It's like the old "don't bring a canoe to a gunfight" axiom. Better to show up with a Howitzer than get caught trying to row down the street while someone shoots bullets at you.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 It's like the old "don't bring a canoe to a gunfight" axiom. Better to show up with a Howitzer than get caught trying to row down the street while someone shoots bullets at you.C7 True dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 So....should I bring my rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 True dat My sciences has mad logicz.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Crescent Seven Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 For realz, god Even the shizzle's fo sho!C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members sub5ound Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 There should be a 'post only in 90's rap slang' thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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