Members mlwarriner Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 and strongly considering burning my Ramones t-shirt in protest. I was in the tattoo shop the other night. They've got Sirius or XM or some other satellite radio in the shop, and we were listening to Marky Ramones' show. He was playing some pretty good tunes, some not so good, etc. Whatever. At some point, he started talking about The Clash. And he, no {censored}, said "The Clash were ok, but they weren't even on the level of The Ramones. They stole so much from us, and owed so much to us." Has he seriously lost his {censored}ing mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted August 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 I think "stole" is a gross exaggeration, but of course all of the UK punk bands, including the Clash, owe a lot to the Ramones. (and so does every other punk band.) i don't disagree that lots of bands (punk or otherwise) owe a lot to the ramones, but to say the clash stole a lot from them, and weren't even on their level? {censored} that. i'm a huge fan of both bands, don't mistake that. but marky is a {censored}in' tard. i read his book, it was much the same. "every band that ever was stole from us. even elvis." {censored} like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 The Ramones were a big influence on The Clash...as they themselves even admitted. They didn't really "steal" anything from the Ramones though, and in my opinion they were better...but that's just it, opinion. Just like Marky Ramone is entitled to his opinion too. But anyway, why boycott a band who's original members (except for Tommy) are dead? Marc Bell (Marky Ramone) wasn't even the original drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Both the same genre but two wildly different bands. I think Marky is just gettin' bitter in his old age. It won't stop me listening to the Ramones or the Clash though. I would say I'm a bigger Clash fan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members db. Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Both the same genre but two wildly different bands. I think Marky is just gettin' bitter in his old age. Nah, he's just on drugs. Or used to be on drugs and his brain looks like Swiss cheese. Give him a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse Neil Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Man, The Clash was wayyyy better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Why would anybody brag about The Clas wanting to sound like them? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super_Donut_Man Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Why would anybody brag about The Clas wanting to sound like them? . Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Why would anybody brag about The Clas wanting to sound like them? . :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SunofNothing Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 the Ramones are a pop band. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 the Ramones are a pop band. Nothing more. Yes, they were a pop band...like the Captain and Tennille and The Carpenters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members db. Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 the Ramones are a pop band. Nothing more. Not in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Really? Need I say more? But seriously, I think The Misfits are ripping my band off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4Need I say more? Um...yeah, I think you need to say more. That {censored}ing rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 The Ramones obviously influenced every punk band (whether they know it or not), but the Clash were by far the better musicians. When it comes down to the bottom line, the Ramones played 50s rock at double time whilst sneering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted August 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 thanks for the warning about the Marky's book! it was a lot of "here's how big of an asshole i was to everyone around me, aren't i cool?" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 The Ramones obviously influenced every punk band (whether they know it or not), but the Clash were by far the better musicians. When it comes down to the bottom line, the Ramones played 50s rock at double time whilst sneering. and wearing their guitars down around their knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 and wearing their guitars down around their knees. And having bad haircuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 and wearing their guitars down around their knees. The evolution of crabcore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 And having bad haircuts... Yes, going for the Toni Tennille look. Wow, a thread about the Ramones and I reference the Captain and Tennille twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 The evolution of crabcore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members db. Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Well, IIRC, the are in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. So they must mean something to the music industry, and their peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Well, IIRC, the are in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. So they must mean something to the music industry, and their peers. No, that means they mean something to Jann Wenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted August 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Well, IIRC, the are in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. So they must mean something to the music industry, and their peers. indeed. and i'll never deny the place of either band. but it's like comparing apples to mesa amps, it just ain't a reasonable comparison. yes, they were both "punk" bands, but that's about where the similarities end in my mind. perhaps boycotting the ramones is a bit over-zealous. maybe i'll just take marky ramone out of my will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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