Stereo and wet/dry with the Access

[tats_dragon]

My new experiment with the Access is to connect my Roland RSP-550 in the 'Loop A send and Loop B return' for all my whacky stereo panning effects in series.

For my wet/dry I use a TC Electronic M-One for my effects.

With the FCB1010 expression pedal I can adjust the 'Balance' to control the wet/dry ratio.

 

THIS PREAMP IS AWESOME.

 

Jun

[Cougar Hunter]

I started unlocking some serious tonal potential last night on mine too. This is seriously one of the highest quality, best preamps ever made.

 

It's easily in the league of cae, bogner, soldano, etc.

 

I'm using loop B for the harmonizer. It's pretty seamless.

 

I would be using loop c for delay and reverb, but I haven'tsolved my phasing problem yet.

[Cougar Hunter]

The EQ is a strange beast.

 

As the amount of bass, mid, etc is adjusted, I think the frequency curve and width are changing too.

 

strange, but awesome.

 

a tweaker's dream.

[Word Bearer]

I finally got my Access back from the Shop (the Stageboard hasn't worked properly since I got it and it's been sent off to Hughes & Kettner twice to be fixed and finally sorted).

 

I really need to get the rest of my rig sorted so I can take full advantage of this thing.

One thing I'm not totally sure on is how the Balance feature works. Either of you guys care to explain in to me a bit?

[Cougar Hunter]

 

Originally posted by Word Bearer I finally got my Access back from the Shop (the Stageboard hasn't worked properly since I got it and it's been sent off to Hughes & Kettner twice to be fixed and finally sorted). I really need to get the rest of my rig sorted so I can take full advantage of this thing. One thing I'm not totally sure on is how the Balance feature works. Either of you guys care to explain in to me a bit?

 

 

put it on 63 and leave it.

 

It's a left/right control.

[Word Bearer]

 

Originally posted by guitarslinger put it on 63 and leave it. It's a left/right control.

 

 

Ahh right, thats what I thought, but wasn't sure if it just effected the FX loops or the whole thing.

[tats_dragon]

Assign 'balance' to an expression pedal to pan the signal or control the wet/dry ratio.

For $150 new, the Behringer FCB1010 w/the two expression pedals is a perfect match with the Access. My only gripe is that the expression pedal MIDI channel is global.

I LOVE THIS PREAMP!!! I can't believe I was even thinking about selling it.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

Sorry for being a little dense here, but I'm not quite following how that would work.

 

I thought the Balance controlled the whole signal and where it sat, so if the Balance was set to 127 I'd only get sound out of the right hand speaker.

[tats_dragon]

'Balance' controls the signal position between the left and right outputs. Think of it as a pan knob on a mixer.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

That's what I thought, so how do you control the wet/dry ratio with it?

[Cougar Hunter]

 

Originally posted by Word Bearer That's what I thought, so how do you control the wet/dry ratio with it?

 

 

mix L/R to mono on a line mixer

 

make L wet

make R dry

 

send them both to mono ins on a rane sm82 or sm26 line mixer

 

use midi Contiuous control to pan between wet and dry.

 

THat's the way I understand it, at least.

[tats_dragon]

I connect a TC M-one on the left line out and the right side goes directly to the power amp.

 

I've also been expreimenting with a decent clean tone on 'Tube 1'.

gain 36 (or as low as possible)

bass 127

mid 90

treble 127

presence 127

with both treble and mid boost on.

 

I might experiment with an EH 12AT7 in that tube socket, like I did with pretty good results in the Piranha thanks to Groove King's suggestion.

 

Jun

[tats_dragon]

Guitarslinger,

I don't use a line mixer. With the Access it is an unnecessay degradation of the signal IMHO. Have you listened to the Access without going thru the Rane mixer?

I know you had a problem with the SE-50 not capable of 100% wet. Try connecting the SE-50 from the Loop A send and return it to Loop B. This will give you a stereo returned serial loop.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

Ahh right I get you now. I was thinking that you were able to control the wet/dry ratio of effects in the loops.

[tats_dragon]

With an expression pedal you can control the output of an effect. Not quite ratio, but for instance you can gradually mix in a heavy reverb with a pedal.

Word Bearer, you're gonna have to ditch that stageboard and atleast get a MIDI pedal that can accomodate expression pedals to control almost ANY parameter on your effects unit i.e. tremolo rates, tremolo depth, reverb output, the actual pitch on the pitch shifter, etc.

Controlling the 'Gain' on the Access with an exp. pedal is pretty interesting also.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

Yeah, I realised that I'm going to have to replace the stageboard at some point.

 

But considering I only paid

[tats_dragon]

Wow! Great deal on the Access. Since you are in Europe look into the Nobels MF-2 it's probably cheaper over there.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

Yeah, it was an absolute steal, especially considering the guys in the shop spent nearly as much trying to fix the Stageboard for me.

 

I've looked at some of the stuff on Nobels site before, but haven't actually checked around to see if any of my local stores stock them.

[tats_dragon]

Connect an efx loop from send A to return B in stereo.

Now if you engage both 'Loop A' and 'Loop B' front panel buttons you get a serial efx loop, returning in stereo.

But here is the bonus.

Only engage 'loop B' and you get a parallel loop because the 'loop A' send is always sending whether the front panel button is pressed or not.

Do you follow this?

 

So now my rig is wet/dry, serial and parallel efx with only two efx units and no external mixer!!!

 

MAN, DO I LOVE THIS PREAMP.

 

Jun

[Word Bearer]

Yeah, I found that little gem out a while back and have been using it with my BF-2 to see what different sounds I could get.

 

Very useful and I can't think of another unit that would let me do that.