Members brian321 Posted October 19, 2006 Members Posted October 19, 2006 I recently got one of these rack units and am using it in a metal core band.I use a tech 21 sansamp dist pedal and i have the mesa on its rythm channle.I noticed that when i have the volume and master at around 12 oclock the tone is very good however this is not loud enough for band practice, i have a fairly {censored}ty power amp, a rocktron velocity 100 and i have this maxed out.When i increase the volumes on the mesa the tone starts to get harsh and sloppy and this is the sme for the pedal, i also have a marshall 2x12 cab with v30s. I also have the eq on the mesa. If anyone has any tips they would be welcomed.
Members tats_dragon Posted October 19, 2006 Members Posted October 19, 2006 Sounds like, as you pointed out, the weak link is your power amp.Maybe look into a Peavey Classic 60 or classic 120, they are fairly cheap. Jun
Members brian321 Posted October 19, 2006 Author Members Posted October 19, 2006 are they valve power amps
Members tats_dragon Posted October 19, 2006 Members Posted October 19, 2006 They are both 6L6s. One went for $150 recently on Ebay. I've recently got a classic 60/60 to replace a classic 50/50 which is eight EL84s. More powerful lowend from the 6L6s which I like.I should be getting my Mesa Studio pre in a few days.EDIT:I just realised you are from Ireland. Could be harder to find there. Jun
Members brian321 Posted October 19, 2006 Author Members Posted October 19, 2006 ya il try ebay thats where i got the mesa i kinda want a mesa 50/50
Members tats_dragon Posted October 20, 2006 Members Posted October 20, 2006 I've never used a mesa 50/50 but I'm sure they are very good. But don't disregard Peavey, if you find one for about $150. I recently discovered how nice Peavey tube products are. I got my Studio Preamp yesterday and the lowend IS flabby compared to my other preamps. I had the bass turned all the way down to get a usable tone out of two EL84s and a open back cab. Today I'll try a Peavey 6L6 amp into my 2x12 closed back.I'm guessing the tubes are original but I got it with the intention of reselling so I won't be experimenting. The clean sounds are very nice though. Jun
Members tats_dragon Posted October 21, 2006 Members Posted October 21, 2006 The Studio Pre thru a Peavey Classis 60/60 into a 2x12 closed back Tone Tubby cab sounds huge! I think the EL84s in the were distorting along with the inferior Celestion seventy/80 making the sound flabby. This is a fantastic preamp. I read up on the manual also.Brian321, definately upgrade your amp. Do you really need the distortion pedal? I was able to achieve killer clean/distortion tones even with the shared EQ. Jun
Members brian321 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Members Posted October 23, 2006 theres a couple on ebay fairly cheap,i might get one do you play metalcore stuff
Members brian321 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Members Posted October 23, 2006 what settings did you dial in for the distortion stuff
Members tats_dragon Posted October 23, 2006 Members Posted October 23, 2006 On another forum John Suhr (Suhr guitars and CAE amps) commented on how he was pleasantly surprised about the Peavey Classic 120/120 during a tube amp shootout. I don't play metalcore stuff so I shouldn't comment about needing a distortion pedal or not. There's enough on tap for me but maybe not enough for metal. As far as settings, I read up on the helpful manual about certain knobs interacting with both channels, then tried some of their suggestions and tweaked from there.I actually just got another one at even a greater price but I still like my Peavey Rock Master, if I had to choose between the two. Jun
Members Cougar Hunter Posted October 23, 2006 Members Posted October 23, 2006 mesa studio preamp problem yeah, I've got a mesa studio preamp problem. I don't have one.
Members brian321 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Members Posted October 23, 2006 Funny thing happened i went on ebay and searched peavey power amps, i found one and guess who was selling it....tats dragon interesting indeed
Members tats_dragon Posted October 23, 2006 Members Posted October 23, 2006 Brian 321, Funny thing happened i went on ebay and searched peavey power amps, i found one and guess who was selling it....tats dragon interesting indeed I hope you are not insinuating that I'm recommending an amp that I am selling. I NEVER recommended this amp to you. Please do your research. Re-read the second post in this thread.I'm selling my 50/50 which use EL84s. Classic 60, Classic 60/60, classic 120, and the Classic 120/120 are all 6L6 amps. More headroom less mid rangy and more lowend to my ears. Jun
Members Dushan Posted October 24, 2006 Members Posted October 24, 2006 Studio preamp EQ was quite strange for me until I got that it is pre-gain EQ, and that graphic EQ is post gain. Although I am not sure what is idea behind bass eq that can be only tweaked between 0 and 2 because anything above two and sound becomes weird. It works totally different that any amp EQ I have tried before that. It is balanced when treble is very high at 8/9 and bass is very low. Also to me there is not much use in getting gain above 5-6. But it is great preamp for sure, maybe not for modern metal, but it is best lead tone I have ever heard. Power amps are hard to get here, so I have tried it only with amp but it has great, singing lead tone!
Members brian321 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Members Posted October 24, 2006 sorry its just that ebay is getting a bit dodgey lately theres a lot of scams being done and you never know
Members tats_dragon Posted October 25, 2006 Members Posted October 25, 2006 Even if I WAS recommending the Classic 50/50 it doesn't quite constitue a SCAM. Maybe unethical. Jun
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