Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Apparently, my Bb has a 3rd valve dump slide. I did not know this, as tugging and tugging had never removed it before. Now, I am actually somewhat puzzled, as the slide is supposed to allow easy water removal. However, my horn has a water key on the 3rd valve as well. Redundancy, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundministries Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Ok, I'll bite, what's a dump slide? Never heard that term before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Its a little section on the end of the 3rd valve slide that pulls out to let water out. If any of your students are playing a Bach Strad, it should have one. I think the Strads have a little lever that lets it loose. And, to my knowledge, it really doesn't serve any purpose except water removal. And I've known trumpet players who have played the same horn for a decade that don't know that it has this little mechanism. Its hardly ever necessary for most trumpeters to empty water out of anything other than the main slide. Well, except those with Amado keys, but thats a whole different thing entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 So what'd you do? Tug even harder, even though your previous tugging had not removed it? Mr. Ministries ... I assume sbb is referring to the fact that on some trumpets, instead of a third valve slide water key, you can actually pull out the very end of the third valve slide (essentially, there are 2 moving parts, the main third valve slide, which will have a ring on it so you can fine-tune D's and C#'s, and the "dump slide" at the end, which you pull all the way off like a French horn player would pull out a key slide). The weird thing here is that sbb's horn has both a water key and a dump slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Its a little section on the end of the 3rd valve slide that pulls out to let water out. If any of your students are playing a Bach Strad, it should have one. I think the Strads have a little lever that lets it loose. And, to my knowledge, it really doesn't serve any purpose except water removal. And I've known trumpet players who have played the same horn for a decade that don't know that it has this little mechanism. Its hardly ever necessary for most trumpeters to empty water out of anything other than the main slide. Well, except those with Amado keys, but thats a whole different thing entirely. ...or what sbb said I don't understand how someone would not know about this on a horn that they've been playing for a decade, but whatevs. However, I DO know that I need to empty out my 3rd valve slide all the time, I don't know about you ... I used to pull out my 1st valve slide and blow out the water that way, but on my Connstellations this isn't possible without unscrewing the trigger mechanism... edit: wait, just remembered it was the SECOND valve slide that I used to pull to empty water. Now I don't do that cuz ... well, I just don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkZ Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Since it doesn't have a 3rd slide water key, I wondered if my daughter's Bach 37 has a dump slide. I couldn't pull it out and didn't want to force it. It probably does, just stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 Since it doesn't have a 3rd slide water key, I wondered if my daughter's Bach 37 has a dump slide. I couldn't pull it out and didn't want to force it. It probably does, just stuck. I'm certain it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 What probably happened is that my sitting on it bent it just the right way to free it up. I'd been oiling the third slide and running it back and forth when I noticed the end starting to stick out. I don't know why it went now rather than, say, the first time I tried it when the horn was still new and not sat on. Mark, I'd wager that your daughter's Strad has the dump slide, in some form. I think Bachs use a little lever of some kind to remove the slide, if there is a little lever there that will be the indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndofunkCity Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 I think Bachs use a little lever of some kind to remove the slide Not unless this is a feature they added since the 80's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkZ Posted October 23, 2007 Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 There's no lever on the 3rd slide. I've never seen that on a Bach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sunburstbasser Posted October 23, 2007 Author Members Share Posted October 23, 2007 I must have heard something wrong then about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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