Members FearMeWithMyLP Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Feels good and bad at the same time. God I hate spending money Alesis Ion at zzSounds.com. $599.99 b-stock. (last one too!) anyone else get this feeling lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeebus Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Think of it this way: You didn't spend money, you invested! You haven't lost any wealth, you've just transformed it into an Ion, a somewhat liquid asset that can be traded for something else down the line, should you deem it necessary! Feel good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unfed Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 yes actually - sold all my synths and some other machines for the G2 last year. $1789.00 A-stock... i'm sure glad i like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeez Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 If you get that feeling in your stomach, you're feeling some apprehension. Probably because you didn't do enough research before laying down your money, so you're still not 100% sure if what you bought is worth the money. It's interesting, because you're trading money for a musical instrument. Money is useful NOW, and it always has a fixed value, so you know what you have. A musical instrument's value is in how it's used... so if you haven't used it much (eg you just bought it), it's not much value. On the other hand, if you keep it for a long time and use it a lot, it has (been) a much higher value. Anyway, some food for thought. Forever, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeez Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Chris100 Think of it this way: You didn't spend money, you invested! You haven't lost any wealth, you've just transformed it into an Ion, a somewhat liquid asset that can be traded for something else down the line, should you deem it necessary! It's not a great investment though, because as soon as you open the box, the value decreases significantly, it's not likely that you'll be able to recover your money back by trading it. In fact, the only reliable way to get your money back is to use it to make music that makes money. Alternatively, you could be making music as a hobby that doesn't make any money. In this case, what you're buying is fun... many, many hours of fun playing the instrument. Of course, this requires work... so until you actually start using your Ion, it's a very expensive doorstop. Forever, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 i know the feeling. just bought a 260 dollar resonant mono filter. tis wicked tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeebus Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Jeez Money is useful NOW, and it always has a fixed value, so you know what you have. Not true. Price levels increase (inflation), and so changes the value of money. As an extreme example, if all prices double, the value of your money is halved. That's why it's good to hold other assets than just cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Jeez It's not a great investment though, because as soon as you open the box, the value decreases significantly, it's not likely that you'll be able to recover your money back by trading it. In fact, the only reliable way to get your money back is to use it to make music that makes money. Alternatively, you could be making music as a hobby that doesn't make any money. In this case, what you're buying is fun... many, many hours of fun playing the instrument. Of course, this requires work... so until you actually start using your Ion, it's a very expensive doorstop. Forever, Kim. Relative to other things its a decent investment. No way to get your money back from girls, booze, and drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeez Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Chris100 Not true. Price levels increase (inflation), and so changes the value of money. As an extreme example, if all prices double, the value of your money is halved. That's why it's good to hold other assets than just cash. Yes, you're right. I was writing comparatively to 2nd hand synths though. Aside from a few notable exceptions, 2nd hand synth values are so variable that they make cash look like a constant value asset. Forever, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeebus Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Jeez Yes, you're right. I was writing comparatively to 2nd hand synths though. Aside from a few notable exceptions, 2nd hand synth values are so variable that they make cash look like a constant value asset. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeez Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by urbanscallywag Relative to other things its a decent investment. No way to get your money back from girls, booze, and drugs. That's what I was saying about fun. If you look at it that way, synths are great value - you can have fun with a synth for years. Girls, booze, and drugs don't last nearly as long. Well, some girls do, but that a whole other set of problems. Forever, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Jeez Some girls do, but that a whole other set of problems. And require reinvestment often with minimal return. I'm sold. I'm going on a shopping spree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 just feel good about it and use your ion.like others have said, keep it and use it for a while and you will have gotten your money out of it.i never look at any music gear as a kind of 'investment', because you almost always take a big hit on it when you sell.i look at it as something i wanted, something i got and felt happy about, and something that will give me some fun while i've got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 I'm getting a feeling in my stomach, too, but it's more about paying slightly less than twice as much for the Ion, last year . It's fixed, though - more correctly - I got a brand new one! . Just a matter of finding the time to pick it up, though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DINpluggedIN Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by FearMeWithMyLP Feels good and bad at the same time. God I hate spending money I suspect that most of us who don't have unlimited funds have had that feeling after certain purchases. The real estate folks (whose clients typically spend a bit more than $600 ) even have a phrase for it, "buyer's remorse". Unless you've really made a bad choice, it usually passes pretty quickly. --Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scubyfan Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by Chris100 ...a somewhat liquid asset that can be traded for something else down the line, should you deem it necessary! At a much, much, much, much, much lower price than originally paid! But no, I never get that feeling, because I evaluate every single purchase from 300,000,000 points and a further 2,000,000 before I drop a cent. Then, when I do, I feel great about the purchase and look forward to using it! That said, I haven't bought anything new music-wise in a long time, so maybe I've simply forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ExplodingBoy Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 I feel ya.. Listen to what I just put on my credit card: Payed for 2 classes at school - $2400Built an insane computer - $1000ProTools MBox Factory Package - $500 To top that all off.. I may be buying a Novation KS5 this week too. I'm gonna be neck deep in debt here for a while. Thank god I only have a 3% interest rate on my card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mytee2.0 Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Hey kim, dont hurt yourself when you step down from that high horse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members synthetica Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 Jeez, I really like your answers lots of good logic there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SylvStuart Posted February 1, 2005 Members Share Posted February 1, 2005 DINpluggedIN nailed it. I was getting ready to chime in about "buyers remorse" too. It happens to homebuyers all the time. Didn't happen to me though, I was happy until I went to the mega Hardware store(Home Depot). I'll never forget it. The automatic doors opened up and I completely freaked out. I needed EVERYTHING in the store-lights, locks, tools, fans, rugs, lawn and garden, home improvement, AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! It was so obvious that people were staring at me. Anyway, yes whenever I made a major gear purchase I just felt SICK! Justifying big spending on "gear" is tough, but you get over it. Then you do it again, and again, and again....until you get married then its a different game altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeez Posted February 2, 2005 Members Share Posted February 2, 2005 Originally posted by myteeGTi Hey kim, dont hurt yourself when you step down from that high horse... Likewise, don't hurt yourself digging your way out of that hole. Forever, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 2, 2005 Members Share Posted February 2, 2005 What a comeback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members protues9 Posted February 2, 2005 Members Share Posted February 2, 2005 that feeling is for me that right after I buy it it's going to go down in price because it's either been cancelled as a product or upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted February 2, 2005 Members Share Posted February 2, 2005 I'm trying to justify a $40K car when I already have two cars less than 5 years old, justifying synths are easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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