Members clusterchord Posted June 7, 2005 Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous Ok then. I agree 2 independant bandpass filters are not that common on synths but you still can do something somewhat similar sounding with 2 resonating lowpass filters . Now that's more common !! not even that is common, at least not in polyphonic dept. because both filters need to be resonant, you really only got a few: CS series from Yamaha (two multimodes), Rhodes Chroma(2 multimode), Andromeda (one LP one multimode). all others are monophonics like MS20, or modulars of course.. (moog filter bank) A6 - i think with some clever routing you could do even better - use two filters on A6 set to two "vowels", and route the output back thru filters of another voice, and set these additional two filters - so you get four "vowels" total. VP330 is truly great, i played it a little bit, altough those sounds fall under "choiry" kinda thing rather than 'breathy' pads. JX10/MKS70 was always good at analog voxy, breathy stuff, for example.. (patch A3 VOICES) beside korgs, another more recent contender, is JD990 - does breath pads with flying colours. true legend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aeon Posted June 7, 2005 Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 Of the synths that I own, the best 4 for doing breathy pads are: 1. Korg OASYS PCI - because of the vocal models, the presence of all that Triton wave ROM, and the routing/layering flexibility. 2. Clavia Nord Modular - because you have the modules and control necessary to make it happen, and formanty stuff is a cakewalk. 3. Waldorf Q - because the filter section can handle formants, and because one can do gentle spectral modulation at the osc level to get animated "air." 4. Roland JD-990 - simply because it has the source short-loop waves to do those sounds, but the routing and multimode filters certainly do not hurt. cheers,aeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted June 7, 2005 Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Umbra +1It mostly boils down to the right source material which are not standard analog waveforms. Most romplers have at least several waves that will work well for choir/breathy type sounds. Beyond that detune and chorus help. +2 Inelegant perhaps if you're an analog purist, but it works. Modern romplers abound in these types of waves, from the realistic to the synthy. I like 'em bandpassed with their own envelopes, and carefully layered (not too much!) on top of a more standard pad (usually lowpassed saws) for that breathy sheen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paolo Di Nicolantonio Posted June 7, 2005 Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 I agree with the fact that to get a nice breathy pad sound you need a ROMpler or at least some synth that has some sampled elements besides traditional waveforms. Of course the quintessential breathy pad would be the Fairlight classic vox. Here are a few examples from the instruments that have been mentioned. TG55 = Voyager K1 = Aah JD-990 = Lovely Vox Pad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BLive Posted June 7, 2005 Author Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 wow guys, thank you so much for the responce, im definately learning a lot BLive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tusker Posted June 7, 2005 Members Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by mrcpro Inelegant perhaps if you're an analog purist, but it works. Modern romplers abound in these types of waves, from the realistic to the synthy. I like 'em bandpassed with their own envelopes, and carefully layered (not too much!) on top of a more standard pad (usually lowpassed saws) for that breathy sheen. I completely agree with Umbra, mrcpro and Varaldo. That's the simplest, most useful formula for breathy pads. Doing it with a traditional analog format is much more difficult, especially if you have a single filter to run everything through. You have to highpass/bandpass filter the white noise to make it sit on top of the tonal stuff. Unless you are using filter/amp feedback as your breath source. And that requires some careful tuning as well. By contrast, it's easy on a rompler. There are usually a bunch of factory presets to tweak too. Best, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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