Members ninjaaron Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 I have been trying lately to create some unconventional, spacey sounding music, that still sound rather good. It represents a lot of work and experimentation on my part, and the contributors this is a post of my findings: simplest way to write spacey music: use pentatonics, especially minor pentatonic. it also usually uses a lot of power chords (clean, especially power chord arpeggios) or suspended (2 or 4) chords (especially of one and five, or for the illiterate: Csus and Gsus or Gsus and Dsus.... or whatever), and scales that lack "emotion" notes. for example a scale that has no three or six. this is the scale I like for this kind of thing 1-2-4-5-b7. It is a major pentatonic starting on the second step, a kind of Dorian pentatonic, if you will. if you are familiar with the music of Blue Man group they use this kind of idea a lot. here is the tab for a two octave version in C: ----------------------------------------------8---10---------------------------------------8--11---------------------------------------7--10------------------------------------8--10-------------------------------------8---10-----------------------------------8--10-------------------------------------------- The next step up is using superimposing Dorian and Lydian modes. Dorian because it is confused about its sexuality. it has a major 6 and a minor 3. Dorian mode is: 1-2-b3-4-5-6-b7, it is a major scale that starts on the second step and is harmonized accordingly. Pink Floyd used Dorian mode quite liberally. listen to the first track on DSOTM for a good example. the most important chords to use in Dorian mode are the Minor I and the Major IV. Lydian mode is kind of crazy because it has three whole steps right at the beginning: 1-2-3-#4-5-6-7, you might even want to stick a b7 in there, makes it even more extreme. If you want a tab for Dorian or Lydian mode just ask and I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Whole tone scale.Clusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Oh, I have also heard your 'Exotolian' mode called the 'Melodic major'; it is the mode founded on the 5th degree of the melodic minor scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members r0g3r Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Originally posted by Anomandaris Oh, I have also heard your 'Exotolian' mode called the 'Melodic major'; it is the mode founded on the 5th degree of the melodic minor scale. Yep, that's what I've seen it written as too. I think the names for modes in scales other than the Diatonic are not standardized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Originally posted by r0g3r Yep, that's what I've seen it written as too. I think the names for modes in scales other than the Diatonic are not standardized. Yeah, I remember having this discussion with you a while ago, over Dorian b2 and Phrygian #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninjaaron Posted November 8, 2002 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Originally posted by Anomandaris Whole tone scale. Clusters. whole tone scales are cool, but clusters... eeeeeeeeww:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninjaaron Posted November 8, 2002 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Originally posted by Anomandaris Oh, I have also heard your 'Exotolian' mode called the 'Melodic major'; it is the mode founded on the 5th degree of the melodic minor scale. interesting, I've also heard it called the hindustan scale as it is used in a lot of indian music. then I listend to confirm this, it was true. so I guess that wuld be the most acurite name, because they were probably the first to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evan_02 Posted November 8, 2002 Members Share Posted November 8, 2002 Avoid the major 7 step of the scale in melodies, unless it is in the chord. This is not super important, but a major seven is more classical sounding, and less modern. -modified by evan_02 how did i modify that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WattsUrizen Posted November 9, 2002 Members Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by ninjaaron interesting, I've also heard it called the hindustan scale as it is used in a lot of indian music. then I listend to confirm this, it was true. so I guess that wuld be the most acurite name, because they were probably the first to use it I have little to no familiarity with non-Western music, so I'll take your word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninjaaron Posted November 9, 2002 Author Members Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by evan_02 how did i modify that? I just said to avoid the major seven, but you mentioned the use of it in harmonies, which I guess just slipped out of my brain. and you remided me of the coolness of lydian mode (lydiandance), althought I still prefer the dominet seven in that scale for melodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tramampoline Posted November 9, 2002 Members Share Posted November 9, 2002 Another cool idea to add spaciness includes playing a root note and it's half step up (or down) counterpart in unison like so x40xxx or x60xxx Kinda creates a cool sort of tension here's some chordal ideas that use this concept 040200 x34002 540600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninjaaron Posted December 21, 2002 Author Members Share Posted December 21, 2002 bump for Fred5 and SDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SDO Posted December 21, 2002 Members Share Posted December 21, 2002 bitchin man, bitchin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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