Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 I'm using the BM as a lead boost on an already crunchy amp. It sounds very good to a point... but as notes decay I get a nasty fizziness. Do you get that too? I think it's worse with the "amp" output, might be better using the "mixer" output but I didn't get a chance to try it out a lot last night. Thanks for any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Bump for the monkey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Run more volume and less gain on the pedal. Also try cutting the treble a little. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by Stratotone Run more volume and less gain on the pedal. Also try cutting the treble a little.Pete Thanks Pete, yeah tried that... gain was at 0 and level was cranked, backed off the level a bit as well as the treble but it was still there. Wondering if it's defective, still gotta try it with anthoer amp/cables/battery too... Just wondering if other BM owners have seen this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amanonfire Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 sounds like you have a voice coil going out on your speaker. maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by amanonfire sounds like you have a voice coil going out on your speaker. maybe. Think the speak's are OK... doesn't happen without the BM engaged... although that means the BM frequencies aren't coming through and those could be the ones causing the speaker to emit fizz! Have to troubleshoot it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 One more bump for da mahnkey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 That fizz is why I got a Blackstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by CicadaSilence That fizz is why I got a Blackstone. Interesting! Nobody else seems to have the BM fizz problem... what's the rest of your rig like? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 At the time I was using the BM, I was using my "Bastard Caster" (30" scale Strat, tuned an octave down) into the following: Bad Monkey DOD Milkbox Experimentalists Anonymous Parallel Universe Digitech PDS 8000 Digitech Digiverb TC Electronics Stereo Chorus/Flange Line 6 DL4 All that ran into either a Fender '59 Reissue Bassman or an Ampeg SVT IV Pro. Just before I got rid of the BM, I cut it down to the delays, reverb, and overdrive. The Bad Monkey still fizzed. I think that the situation is that everyone's ears are different. I've heard that annoying high end fizzy decay on just about every OD I've tried so far. It's just something that sticks out like a sore thumb to me and may or may not even be even noticable to others. I'm sure there are other overdrives the don't fizz, but I stopped looking when I found the Blackstone. I'm completely happy with it. Theres a pretty in-depth explanation of what distortion is, and why it does what it does, where the desirable/undesirable characteristics come in, etc on the Blackstone website. Good for a (slighty dry) read, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by CicadaSilence At the time I was using the BM, I was using my "Bastard Caster" (30" scale Strat, tuned an octave down) into the following: Bad Monkey DOD Milkbox Experimentalists Anonymous Parallel Universe Digitech PDS 8000 Digitech Digiverb TC Electronics Stereo Chorus/Flange Line 6 DL4 All that ran into either a Fender '59 Reissue Bassman or an Ampeg SVT IV Pro. Just before I got rid of the BM, I cut it down to the delays, reverb, and overdrive. The Bad Monkey still fizzed. I think that the situation is that everyone's ears are different. I've heard that annoying high end fizzy decay on just about every OD I've tried so far. It's just something that sticks out like a sore thumb to me and may or may not even be even noticable to others. I'm sure there are other overdrives the don't fizz, but I stopped looking when I found the Blackstone. I'm completely happy with it. Theres a pretty in-depth explanation of what distortion is, and why it does what it does, where the desirable/undesirable characteristics come in, etc on the Blackstone website. Good for a (slighty dry) read, if nothing else. Thanks CS! Sorry to bug you with the PM... I'll go check out the Blackstone site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NiCkMiLnE Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 could people please post their bad monkey clips and settings? im after one bot o/d my clean with a fedner strat and get texas sotra sounds, like an srv neck pup tone cheers nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by cvogue Thanks CS! Sorry to bug you with the PM... I'll go check out the Blackstone site. No problem. Always happy to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Originally posted by CicadaSilence No problem. Always happy to help out. Those Blackstone clips sound great!!! Too bad they're out of stock... (They are pricey though...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 It's not the most transparent overdrive. My TS-7 is more transparent, actually. Have you really messed withthe EQ? It sounds like you have milked all you can out of that pedal. It likely won't do everything you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tocs100 Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yeah, I did read one other review mentioning fizziness. I've also been asking forumites for several days to compare the amp out with the mixer out into a Boss digital delay, to see if the mixer voicing cuts the tinniness. The zero response is giving me a very bad vibe about how few here really own one of those Monkeys: Digitech cronies at work? (Yeah, sarcastic, but with good reason.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Hmm... I don't think it's the pedal. I tried it through my Zoom PS-02 headphone amp/studio thing and no fizz at all. For some of the sounds it sounded really nice! So I'm thinking it's a cable or (gulp!) my Classic 50 head... Don't have the C50 here at home so have to wait until next week. it did give me a nice "oomph" and great sustain with the C50, if I can just get rid of the fizziness it will RAWK!!! Hoping it's a cable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Tried it again this morning with my little Laney practice amp, no fizz... sounded good! Again hoping it's not my Classic 50 and just a cable or something simple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by cvogue Thanks Pete, yeah tried that... gain was at 0 and level was cranked, backed off the level a bit as well as the treble but it was still there. Wondering if it's defective, still gotta try it with anthoer amp/cables/battery too... Just wondering if other BM owners have seen this. It's not defective, it's cheap...I told you guys, but ya didn't listen, now look, thread after thread about the pitfalls of the "bad" monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by SeeMoore It's not defective, it's cheap...I told you guys, but ya didn't listen, now look, thread after thread about the pitfalls of the "bad" monkey. It is inexpensive but it worked well with other gear. Just hoping it's not my amp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by cvogue It is inexpensive but it worked well with other gear. Just hoping it's not my amp... If it is the amp, maybe its just the speaker.Have ya tried it with the pedal out of the chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lorax Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by cvogue It is inexpensive but it worked well with other gear. Just hoping it's not my amp... Some pedal and amp combinations just simply dont work.......Might be the case here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cvogue Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by Lorax Some pedal and amp combinations just simply dont work.......Might be the case here.... I hope not... but it might be. Won't be able to tell until next week. Anybody know what the Guitar Center exchange policy is? Bought it on 4/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by SeeMoore It's not defective, it's cheap...I told you guys, but ya didn't listen, now look, thread after thread about the pitfalls of the "bad" monkey. thats curious.according to Keith Barr (president & co-founder of MXR), the Phase90 came about when, "I sat down and figured out how i could make the absolute cheapest phase shifter possible." (quoted from the "AM guide to vintage fx")absolute cheapest.curious, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W.Kyle.C Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 what is a blackstone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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