Members Johnny Fandango Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 http://www.gearwire.com/fender-champ-600-wnamm.html I want one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lostandfoundpdx Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 {censored} that noise. it looks like an overpriced doorstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Fandango Posted January 20, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 lol...im taking it as poor video recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 not even gonna bother with watching the vid, i'll just wait till they get bought, honeymooned, then put out on the doorstep, avaiable for chump change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 not even gonna bother with watching the vid, i'll just wait till they get bought, honeymooned, then put out on the doorstep, avaiable for chump change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratStevo Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 6 inch speakers have always sounded small, same thing goes for 8's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 6 inch speakers have always sounded small, same thing goes for 8's I've heard GOOD 6-8 inch speakers that could rival 10-12s. Granted these were old school 70's hi-fi speakers with HUGE magnets, but it can be done. I doubt that's what Fender has in there if they're going to retail for $200 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 a 6" or 8", even a mediocre one, is fine for me & my late-nite kids-are-sleeping kitchen work; tone-crafting is not the order of that job. depending on what any other playing might require, plugging any amp/combo into a different spkr cab is always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skipstar59 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 6 inch speakers have always sounded small, same thing goes for 8's Not so SS. Listen to this clip that was done totally with a '73 Vibro Champ with oringinal stock speaker. Tell me if this tone doesn't sound sweet. I bet if I hadn't told you it was done a VC you wouldn't have known the difference. I was surprised how big the amp sounded when it was recorded. Here's the link.80's Tribute Rock Tune:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=633883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitownTerror Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I totally want a small tube amp for under $200, be it this amp (used) or a kay/silvertone/univox/whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Not so SS. Listen to this clip that was done totally with a '73 Vibro Champ with oringinal stock speaker. Tell me if this tone doesn't sound sweet. I bet if I hadn't told you it was done a VC you wouldn't have known the difference. I was surprised how big the amp sounded when it was recorded. Here's the link.80's Tribute Rock Tune:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=633883 I could be mistaken or have just been made a fool of due to rumors but didn't they do some of the guitar tracks for the first Van Halen album through a champ??? Even if not a good one is anything but thin and cheap sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mxr20 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I could be mistaken or have just been made a fool of due to rumors but didn't they do some of the guitar tracks for the first Van Halen album through a champ??? Even if not a good one is anything but thin and cheap sounding. I know eruption was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I know eruption was That's what I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gatordoc Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I never did really get the whole Champ love affair thing. I have a mint '66 BF Vibro Champ that's all original right down to the 2-prong plug. The amp was never played by the original owner. I take it out once a year, dust it off, make sure it still works and then it goes back into the closet. I always find it funny because in his day Leo Fender designed these to be a small, affordable, student practice amp and now you hear talk like these are some kind of holy grail. It wasn't all that long ago before Fender amp mania set in that you could get these little amps for almost nothing. Everyone wanted the DRs, PRs, SRs, etc. I paid $250 for mine back around 2000 only because it was in museum quality condition so I was willing to pay a premium. It just looked so damn cool! However, there were literally dozens of SF VCs on eBay at the time back then, and even BFs, going for $125 - $175. I bought an old Princeton Reverb at the same time and it totally blows the VC out of the water in every category. I took the Mullards out of the VC and put them into the PR and it sounds even better now! It makes me laugh to see what my VC is worth today just a few years later. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elctmist Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Well if you know how to mike them they can sound very big on record. Many classic tones recorded with champs and other small amps. Course most peple don't know how to mike them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skipstar59 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I never did really get the whole Champ love affair thing. I have a mint '66 BF Vibro Champ that's all original right down to the 2-prong plug. The amp was never played by the original owner. I take it out once a year, dust it off, make sure it still works and then it goes back into the closet. I always find it funny because in his day Leo Fender designed these to be a small, affordable, student practice amp and now you hear talk like these are some kind of holy grail. It wasn't all that long ago before Fender amp mania set in that you could get these little amps for almost nothing. Everyone wanted the DRs, PRs, SRs, etc. I paid $250 for mine back around 2000 only because it was in museum quality condition so I was willing to pay a premium. It just looked so damn cool! However, there were literally dozens of SF VCs on eBay at the time back then, and even BFs, going for $125 - $175. I bought an old Princeton Reverb at the same time and it totally blows the VC out of the water in every category. I took the Mullards out of the VC and put them into the PR and it sounds even better now! It makes me laugh to see what my VC is worth today just a few years later. To each his own. It's not about getting it, it's about having a very small PORTABLE amp that you can haul around for jams or practice, and you can use in the studio to get cool tones with. It's also not about what amp blows the other away, but what tones you can get out of each type of amp that makes the variety nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramblin390 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 wow, they shoulda named it the chump 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Your saying Eruption was played through a Champ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 "we've added a hotter preamp because that's what you want." umm, no, no it isn't what I want at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wacopacco Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 i'll wait to pass judgment till i hear one in person, or a good review/demo. I definately like the idea of a nice small all tube amp for recording/jams. Not sure on the 6" speaker tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Honestly I haven't heard many amps that can blow away a good Princeton Reverb. But those are also 600-800 dollar amps these days. A good champ gets you a comparable, more home-use friendly sounds for less money. And if you know what you're doing you can get amazing sounds with either one in a recording studio. I imagine somebody who know's what they're doing can make one of these new champs sound great, and somebody who doesn't can make them sound like ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 I paid $600 for my Silverface Princeton. No reverb though. But it's in really nice condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skipstar59 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Honestly I haven't heard many amps that can blow away a good Princeton Reverb. But those are also 600-800 dollar amps these days. A good champ gets you a comparable, more home-use friendly sounds for less money. And if you know what you're doing you can get amazing sounds with either one in a recording studio. I imagine somebody who know's what they're doing can make one of these new champs sound great, and somebody who doesn't can make them sound like ass. WORDS OF WISDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 Your saying Eruption was played through a Champ?? I've heard that rumor a lot...but never seen any verification of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted January 20, 2007 Members Share Posted January 20, 2007 http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1508247 I've listened to the video a good 3 or 4 times now and I still think it sucks. Maybe with a 5751 pre and a sweeter 6V6 it could sound decent, but there are plenty of other single 6V6 combos out there that I'd rather have for my $200. I just don't get reissuing that particular model - 6" speaker? No thanks. And 1949 cosmetics - what demographic are they trying to reach..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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