Members Alex D Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Wow, using that rationale, we should've invaded North Korea generations ago because of all the POWs they held onto after the first Korean War. Invade an entire country and risk thousands of lives because of less than 200 prisoners released 25 years ago? No. Its more of a combined effect IMHO. If korea had a god complex that threatened the rational world, then yes we should have. Japan should be worried given their history with korea though.But Maybe we should of never stopped that war and listened to Macarthur and just bombed the shit of china when we had the upper hand so we wouldn't be dealing with it at this very moment.But that aside they aren't Iran and don't have the extra baggage that Iran brings to the table, so it a moot point IMHO BUT: Of course I would be all for just sitting back a forgetting our part in this imperialism (by both dems and republicans) and letting shit hit the fan. But that in no way takes away our responsibility on what has happened or is going to happen from a greed that is the root cause of all this shit. And we have a huge Responsibility for it, as Americans who let this happen. Capitalism breeds imperialism and this breeds a global world order so the rich don't end up killing themselves over trade markets (forced/unforced). they kill communism and in effect discredit socialism as a viable solution what is left? Enter: the Jesus Freaks or Radical Islam who try to clean it up with this/their idea of god and all that shit it entails (ie how go to hell/heaven or who right/wrong), the only problem is that most of these people who are in power want to destroy something (Israel) to get to god to fulfill some crazy delusion of a scripture. To bad there isn't a scripture that guaranteed god return if we had peace, rather then war I could get on that boat any day But thats not the hand we were dealt, so we deal with it or change our ways and bend to the will of the world. I'm all for bending, but from what I see people don't want to give up their ipods and cells phone or suvs or this idea of being "rich" while people starve. No, they would rather just chug away on all this worthless consumerism and grab for the golden ring. Well this can't last forever, Thank god So: Iran gets it, it all connected, and to keep the world from falling into the fire (the fire we stoked) we can't just walk away with all our shit and go home. We can't just take our ball and go home, because they know where we live and they want their pay back. We have to pay for it in the end, nothing is free. Well welcome to the end, time to pay up America. I hope we win, but change our ways in the process (ie get rid of all the alpha apes). If your a believer of the end times or the Apocalypse, I don't, I fully apologize. But Iran surely does (unlike Korea), or at least acts/says as much, and they can never be allowed to get nukes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I hate bush, voted against him both times, but with that said we should of invaded Iran instead of Iraq. They took our people, and also was directly responsible for the holding of terry anderson for over 7 years. Also: Anyone trying to get a nuke and on the other hand says openly their true belief, Iran new leader role in life, to lay the path for the coming of the islamic idea of "coming of the lord" (mahadid spelling?) That the sunni's have been killing the son/generation line of muhammad who is to come from the tigeress river area who they now hope to come forth through this new shite iraq or: That al-sadr army is really the army of this "2nd coming's army" who has been waiting for this to happen for generations and is now within reach of the fulfillment. In short they are crazy ass fuckers who are nothing more then brown skinned Pat Robertson with a Nuke being built to bring around Armageddon I think this crazy shit has to be stopped or there is going to be a smoking nuclear crater where Iran or Israel is. I really am torn, on one end the crazy god hairless apes will kill the crazy alpha hairless apes. But I want them to be stopped because any hairless ape death is a sad thing Iraq will be bigger mistake then anyone will realize if Iran is allowed to go nuclear. They must be stopped I'm really not all that worried about Iran.Whether they get/want/have/are working on nukes doesnt matter that much. Using nukes doesnt help out any of Irans longterm goals. Besides Amadinajad was elected primarilly because we invaded right next door. before that reformists were all in power. besides i see pakistan as more of a threat... way more anti US sentiment among their people, a weak government, and plenty of people poised to take it over that hate us way more than anyone else... oh yeah, and they already have a nuclear arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dysorexia Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 my favorite one is, "we invaded for national interest and national security." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Sorry, but if that was the case gas would only be 50 cents a gallon now.Lord knows we have enough troops over there to pump it dry. NO. Iraq was supposed to be our happy democratic ally by now. Since we would keep them from joining opec, and have all their oilwells privately owned, they'd pump that {censored} out as fast as they could. Economies would be humming right along with oil down to $25/barrel. Unfortunately we didnt get greeted with flowers. We thought the country would just pull its self up with its own bootstrap, and their would be a permanent rainbow over the middle east, and suni and shiite children would be holding hands and playing in the oil just bubbling up from the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 my favorite one is, "we invaded for national interest and national security." my favorite "So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him (sadam) from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq." Dick Cheney 1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Poopsicle Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 As many as the American public will torerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 As many as the American public will torerate. sad sad truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnemyofSilence Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'm really not all that worried about Iran.Whether they get/want/have/are working on nukes doesnt matter that much. Using nukes doesnt help out any of Irans longterm goals. Unless their long-term goals are very short-term, which is his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'm really not all that worried about Iran.Whether they get/want/have/are working on nukes doesnt matter that much. Using nukes doesnt help out any of Irans longterm goals. Besides Amadinajad was elected primarilly because we invaded right next door. before that reformists were all in power. besides i see pakistan as more of a threat... way more anti US sentiment among their people, a weak government, and plenty of people poised to take it over that hate us way more than anyone else... oh yeah, and they already have a nuclear arsenal I kind of look at Iran as the crazy fucker I wouldn't want to have gun.they're just smart enough to know how to use it and just crazy enough to walk into a school and start shooting the place up in some schizo type way. I guess I just don't trust religious fanatics to be "rational" enough to be truly trusted to have that kind of firepower or fully understood by our secular society really. The guy on a ego trip or some bank robber, ya I can get that, they want to feel tough like a red neck or some money and shit like that (no offense farmers). But the religious right wing here blows up abortion clinics and they are supposed followers of Christ I could image if they got a nuke, not just Muslims but any religious fantatic. Even if they are just in power for a short time, if they access to that kind of firepower i say take that shit away from them before someone gets hurt. Not even considering if we don't, and Israel has to do it. Fuck that shit, we would then jump in one way or the other in that case. So take the bull by the horns, control your own destiny type idea. Pakistan, shit you are so right. One bullet away and if a Islamic fundamentalist forget about it. India would freak and I'm not sure who would do the nuclear freak out first. The more nukes out there, and the more countries have them them more and more likely they will be used. Throw in irrational thought and shit, your guess is as good as mine. I would like to error on the side of caution though, any nuclear exchange must be arrested at all costs no matter who it is. Even if it has nothing to do with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AuttumAttic Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 :blah: :blah: :blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4Kenoath Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 You create your own enemies in this world. The US, and alas, Australia (the US's lapdog) have many enemies now. Blaming the enemies does not make them go away...surprise, surprise, it only helps them get stronger. The universal rule is, what you keep feeding into, keeps getting bigger for you. I don't worry about these things since the 'unconscious' will be removed from this planet soon enough. They have no real power...just pretend. Trying to force other peoples to live and be a certain way is a symptom of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 As many as the American public will torerate. a shocking amount of Americans are ignorant red necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I'm gonna buy an electric car and drive it to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4Kenoath Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I'm gonna buy an electric car and drive it to the moon. You fool...they don't make power cords that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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