Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Let me preface this post by saying: This is my opinion only. but....why would I want an overdrive that sounds exactly like my clean sound? I don't like my cleans with a lot of mids, I prefer alot of top sparkle and bottom. I know alot of guitarists do as well. You know what kind of overdrive goes well with a clean sound? One with some midrange and some compression. When you take out these things you end up with lifeless, harsh tone. The heart of a guitar's distorted tone is the midrange, I just don't get why so many guitarists want to suck it out in all situations. am I crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Let me preface this post by saying: This is my opinion only. but....why would I want an overdrive that sounds exactly like my clean sound? I don't like my cleans with a lot of mids, I prefer alot of top sparkle and bottom. I know alot of guitarists do as well. You know what kind of overdrive goes well with a clean sound? One with some midrange and some compression. When you take out these things you end up with lifeless, harsh tone. The heart of a guitar's distorted tone is the midrange, I just don't get why so many guitarists want to suck it out in all situations. am I crazy? Timmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 thats why we use Direct Drives... oh yjeah !jyeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 thats why we use Direct Drives... oh yjeah !jyeah you know it! i was rattling the house tonight with that pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wood Chuck Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Let me preface this post by saying: This is my opinion only. but....why would I want an overdrive that sounds exactly like my clean sound? I don't like my cleans with a lot of mids, I prefer alot of top sparkle and bottom. I know alot of guitarists do as well. You know what kind of overdrive goes well with a clean sound? One with some midrange and some compression. When you take out these things you end up with lifeless, harsh tone. The heart of a guitar's distorted tone is the midrange, I just don't get why so many guitarists want to suck it out in all situations. am I crazy? you are right, but I find my RC booster to do a good job at sounding like my amp getting more life infused into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Timmy. on the list for a Tim. I'm gonna give it a whirl. Please not i'm more frustrated with a general trend, not a specific pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 on the list for a Tim. I'm gonna give it a whirl. Please not i'm more frustrated with a general trend, not a specific pedal. Honestly, I don't know of many other ODs out there that qualify as 'transparent' - I didn't think the BD-2 was for instance. Certainly not when compared to the Timmy. What are the others - Silver Kiss? Red Snapper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Honestly, I don't know of many other ODs out there that qualify as 'transparent' - I didn't think the BD-2 was for instance. Certainly not when compared to the Timmy. What are the others - Silver Kiss? Red Snapper?http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=transparent+overdrive&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8they all say they are transparent. i just think it's a bad selling point/buzzword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phishmarisol Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Timmy. Was gonna post the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=transparent+overdrive&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8they all say they are transparent. i just think it's a bad selling point/buzzword. True dat.You'll see about the Tim - that's a transparent pedal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 True dat. You'll see about the Tim - that's a transparent pedal... i know you're right, i trust your ear and supreme taste in gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DADGADammit Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 thank god not all guitarists use the same methods to get a good sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Janglin_Jack Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Everything has it's place. I think Fender amps like a mid boosted TS style pedal to fill out the sound. That said, I think the lower gain you use, the less "color" you need. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jb1911 Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Everything has it's place. I think Fender amps like a mid boosted TS style pedal to fill out the sound.That said, I think the lower gain you use, the less "color" you need.Jack I just changed the mid resistor on the bass pot of my 67 Deluxe Reverb from the 6.8k ohm to 22k ohm just for that reason. More mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dinosaur jm Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Timmy. hahahahahahahahaaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bt2513 Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 I think it depends almost solely on two factors: -the amp you have -the capacity in which you (can) use it I love the tone of my overdriven Maz Jr. more than any other OD pedal I've owned... that being said, I can only crank it once a month or so if I get off work early enough to beat the neighbors home. On the other hand, my Crate Vintage Club amp ONLY sounded good if I put something in front of it. No sparkle at all. The less transparent the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dinosaur jm Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 it can be usefull if you use it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 ... I can tell you why...My amp sounds amazing..... I just need a little more of it at times...I don't want to color it at all.... start with a great steak and you don't need anything but salt and pepper... my od's are salt and pepper... not A1!The Gainster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4Kenoath Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Blue Boy Deluxe - adjustable mids etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Co. Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 I don't want to color it at all.... start with a great steak and you don't need anything but salt and pepper... my od's are salt and pepper... not A1!The Gainster. I've only owned the Barber / Clark version of the Gainster and that was FAR from transparent. Big mid push, bass attenuation, and 'thickening'. Don't get me wrong, it sounded good and had a very tweedy raunch... but it wasn't like a ... Red Snapper, Timmy, RC Booster, etc. -Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thats why I hate the term to begin with - nobody can agree as to what it actually means... I wouldn't call my CoT50 transparent - but it is certainly 'amp-like'. Transparency doesn't just mean 'no mid hump' to me - it needs to also be very amp-like in it's response to picking and dynamics without adding anything artificial or imposing a different sonic signature to the drive sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dysorexia Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Blue Boy Deluxe - adjustable mids etc etc... I {censored}ing love this pedal. So articulate and even when you crank the gain and works well with all of my amps. It's perfect for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 I {censored}ing love this pedal. So articulate and even when you crank the gain and works well with all of my amps. It's perfect for me. I do too, but I wouldn't consider it 'transparent' either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted February 24, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 ... I can tell you why... My amp sounds amazing..... I just need a little more of it at times... I don't want to color it at all.... start with a great steak and you don't need anything but salt and pepper... my od's are salt and pepper... not A1! The Gainster. I have a Gainster.It is bar none, my favorite overdrive ever. And it's known for being 'tranparent'. But I find that it really adds it's own mojo and sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 I have a Gainster. It is bar none, my favorite overdrive ever. And it's known for being 'tranparent'. But I find that it really adds it's own mojo and sound. The big box Gainsters do have a mojo...... My .22 LOVES that pedal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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