Members bmast160 Posted November 14, 2007 Members Share Posted November 14, 2007 I want to apply some effects to vocals and have never done so before. I have a phantom powered shure beta 87A and was thinking about running it thru a digitech vocal 300 or 400 and then to the amp(which has a phantom power jack on it). Im looking to add a little reverb, maybe a little compression, and maybe a little delay. Do you think it would be better to somehow run the vocals thru an analog compression, reverb and delay (maybe keeley compressor, holy grail, and tc electronic delay) rather than use the digitech. Not sure how all this all works (especially with the phantom power cord and regular guitar jacks) because i have limited experience with vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members CHOUTMUSIC Posted November 15, 2007 Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 I haven't used effect pedals much to record vocals, but when I have it has worked best to use a hi to low (or is it low to hi) impedence adaptor from the mic into the pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted November 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 any other thoughts?anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 15, 2007 Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 I think you're going to run into some trouble using a phantom powered mic. First of all, the Vocal 300 and Vx400 do not provide phantom power, best as I can tell. Secondly, stomp boxes have a different impedance, so you would need an impedance adapter as mentioned above; plus even with that, you are still stuck with the problem of providing power to your Mic. I would imagine that it could be pretty dangerous to run phantom power through your stomp boxes. The best solution I can think of is to run whatever effects you want off a mixing console, not inline with your mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted November 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/DigiTech-Vx400-VocalModeling-Floor-Processor?sku=150845 looks like it accepts phantom power jacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 15, 2007 Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 There's nothing in that write-up that mentions phantom power, nor is there any evidence of a phantom power on/off switch in any of the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted November 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 There's nothing in that write-up that mentions phantom power, nor is there any evidence of a phantom power on/off switch in any of the photos. isnt that a xlr input and output for phantom power on the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MegaTom Posted November 15, 2007 Members Share Posted November 15, 2007 isnt that a xlr input and output for phantom power on the back? XLR doesn't necessarily mean that there is phantom power, it is just one of several ways of terminating a cable at its end... just like 1/4" mono (like your guitar cable) and 1/4" TRS (stereo, like a headphone plug), 1/8" mono & 1/8" stereo, RCA jacks, banana plugs (found in many speakers), etc.... They all perform the same function, but in different fashions to suit different needs. There may or may not be some sort of active (powered, by battery or AC) DI box that you can connect in between the Vocal 300 or Vx400 and your mic that can provide power to it. Or you can use another mic preamp that has a +48V supply, connect your mic to that via XLR, and then connect the preamp to the processor. So then it would be either: Mic ---> DI Box ---> EFX Processor ---> whatever or Mic ---> Mic Preamp ---> EFX Processor ---> whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted November 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tortureresponse Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 depends one what you're recording your vox into. if you're recording them into any DAW, you can always put the FX on after the fact. or if this is for a live application, maybe you should thing about bussing the FX. most mixers have bussing features. without knowing your setup, it's hard to say what way would be best for you. what's your rig look like? i might be able to give some better advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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