Members Andersonology Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 A friend of mine plays in a local PF tribute band. One of the songs they're playing has an "orcawhale" sound in it, and he's trying to figure out how to reproduce that sound. As luck would have it, a few weeks ago the Aussie PF band came thru town, and he had backstage passes, so he was able to talk to one of their guitarist about how he recreates that sound. He told my friend that he could either (a) pay Pete Cornish like a thousand bucks to make the pedal he needs, or (b) play thru a wah pedal backwards. Well, when he told me about the wah pedal trick, I tried it, and as I suspected, that did not work at all. So can anyone shed some light on what the guy in the Aussie PF band was talking about? Surely he wasn't just BSing my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 I've never actually seen a decent description for that. Its something about reversing the pot in the wah or some other tweak to a regular wah that does it. Despite hearing about this many times here I still have no clue what they really mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 I think I read that in the Guitar World article about Gilmour's gear that a fellow forumite wrote a while ago, that story about a wha pedal plugged backwards for whales/seagulls sounds. Pete Cornish, when he built one of Gilmour's first integrated board, added a switch to reverse the connection of the wha for that particular whale sound effect... maybe it doesn't work with just any wha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackjack davey Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 That's what I heard to. You plug the input jack into the output hole and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 whammy pedal will def. make some whale sounds. or a slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock_and_roll Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 It certainly works on my wah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 You plug the guitar cable into the amplifier side and the amp cable into the guitar input side It makes some wierd siren/animal type of sounds when you move it all the way back into the heel position The squealing noises in the middle section (of Echoes) is a reversed Wah Wah. Switch the input and output cables and control the feedback with the upper tone knob on your guitar (bridge pickup position) I dunno. I recall trying this and it didn't work. Maybe you need to combine that with a fuzz face type pedal to get the standard fuzz/wah oscillation going, but with the reverse setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted November 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 You plug the guitar cable into the amplifier side and the amp cable into the guitar input sideIt makes some wierd siren/animal type of sounds when you move it all the way back into the heel positionThe squealing noises in the middle section (of Echoes) is a reversed Wah Wah. Switch the input and output cables and control the feedback with the upper tone knob on your guitar (bridge pickup position)I dunno. I recall trying this and it didn't work. Maybe you need to combine that with a fuzz face type pedal to get the standard fuzz/wah oscillation going, but with the reverse setup. That pretty much sounds verbatim what the Aussie guy told my friend. Maybe only certain typesmodels of wah pedals? It seems to me that regardless of what pedal you use, running it backwards is not going to do anything, since there's no signal being passed to the amp, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted November 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 It certainly works on my wah Really? What kind of wah do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purplexi Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 That pretty much sounds verbatim what the Aussie guy told my friend. Maybe only certain typesmodels of wah pedals?It seems to me that regardless of what pedal you use, running it backwards is not going to do anything, since there's no signal being passed to the amp, right? It does send a signal, a squeel or singing whale tone if done properly. Obviously w/fuzz or dist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsailor803 Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted November 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=44 Sweet...thanks man. You can't ask for a more detailed explanation than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrowan Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 I did it with my old GCB-95 Crybaby by plugging into the output jack and using the input jack as the output. It didn't work with my RMC3, so I'm guessing it's wah specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted November 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 I did it with my old GCB-95 Crybaby by plugging into the output jack and using the input jack as the output. It didn't work with my RMC3, so I'm guessing it's wah specific. Well there you go then...I tried it on my RMC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkeybot Posted November 27, 2007 Members Share Posted November 27, 2007 It certainly works through a Crybaby - In through the out and out through the in. You get a spot on squeel just like on "Echoes". The trick is in using the tone and volume to control the noise (and the pu selector) - I've only tried it through my Jazzmaster, but it works for me. I think that using a Crybaby is key (It's what DG used, I believe) - def. doesn't work with my Morley. Through a delay and reverb it's a cool little trick. I've used it on a couple of recordings - Not sure about this - but there's a similar effect used on a couple of Twillight Singers songs - Can't remember which ones - (not on the latest record - I think it's used on the covers record) - Sounds like something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WorkingClassDan Posted November 28, 2007 Members Share Posted November 28, 2007 I thought that was slide, and delay on Echoes... (haven't read the Gilmourish thing yet)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raoul Duke! Posted November 28, 2007 Members Share Posted November 28, 2007 I've heard it's also due to wahs being wired different too, but that's probably unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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