Members IvIark Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 All the pedals I'm using at the moment are true bypass so I use the SCP first in line as a buffer so that it is effectively always connected to the guitars pickups to maintain a consistent load. Works great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tidalwaveGB Posted May 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 This is the basic configuration that should work for anyone: Guitar ---> Buffer ---> Any pedals ---> Buffer ---> Amp The first buffer is providing an interface for the guitar and its long cable to the pedalboard. The final buffer is a line driver for the cable back to the amp. In between, you can put any pedals you like. regards, Jack Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I wasn't sure about the purpose of putting a buffer last in line, but that makes total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eyeball987 Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 Anyone know if the Tonelab LE is buffered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tidalwaveGB Posted May 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 Anyone know if the Tonelab LE is buffered? It is indeed buffered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telepete Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 im pretty sure the microamp isn't TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonaldDemon Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 I run 15 pedals and I really don't put much thought into it anymore. If it sounds bad then I change it up as best I can. Trust your ears not the theory. That said I have found through online advice and my own experience that a GOOD buffered pedal last in line works best, namely my TU-2. I had my PH-1r last for a while but that buffer was weak and made my tone suffer. Since I moved the TU-2 last everything sounds good. Ideally, like Jack (AMZ-FX) said, guitar-buffer-other pedals-buffer-amp is the best way to go. My fuzz sounds worse with a buffer before it so my theory is keep all TB pedals before the fuzz and then a buffered right after it. Thise are the only two rules I follow with my chain; no buffer before my fuzz and good buffer (TU-2) at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockapede Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 Everything with a buffer other than my DT-10 is in a looper. The DT-10 is at the beginning of my chain and the rest of my pedals are TB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SUPER VELCROBOY Posted May 14, 2008 Members Share Posted May 14, 2008 usually i think about leaving the buffer in front as much as possible. The only time i would deviate from this is why a dirt pedal expects a low impedance signal and instead it sees a buffer... the sound just gets messed up in a bad way. I think since you seem to have a lot of buffered stages, then probably it won't matter too much. You can easily use looper switching to shorten the signal distance of your cables too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members giliposha Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 What kind of buffer is more suitable for each position, start and end of chain? opamps, fets, mosfet, bjt? does it make any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultradust Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 As for placing the fuzz first in line, that definitely makes sense too, as I have heard that fuzz pedals work best when they are first in the chain. Good stuff. Thanks. True on the fuzz point (as well stated by DonaldDemon), namely when it comes to Fuzz Face-type vintage circuits. Even more picky however, are treble boosters, which should absolutely never be preceded by a buffer. Both of the above have serious tonal problems due to the difference in impedance (after following passive pickups) when a buffered pedal/active pickups come before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I don't care. I've always just had some kind of booster towards the start and left it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OnWingsOfLead Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I've honestly not thought about it much. My order is in my sig. I just keep the effects in normal order Wah>Dirt>EQ>Modulation>Delay>Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SUPER VELCROBOY Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 What kind of buffer is more suitable for each position, start and end of chain? opamps, fets, mosfet, bjt? does it make any difference? no rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGareth Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I don't really think about it, but I do use my ears to hear what sounds the best order and i'm not scared to make the order 'unconventional' if it sounds better to me. +1. I've said this before and I'll say it again but I think that sometimes people worry too much about buffers and true bypass and the like. If it sounds good then it is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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