Members bt2513 Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 Has anyone OWNED both? Pros and Cons of each? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StuckItToYa31 Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 The Micro POG is pretty cool, but it has some tracking issues with the octaves. I like it, but I'm not sure if it's worth the price because of the occasionally poor tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cubistguitar Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have had the Octron for a while and really like it. I have not tried the M-POG but i assume it is a different beast all together. I know they both do up and down octaves, but the tone of the Octron is delightfully "vintage" octave efx and the M-POG seems a lot more modern and cleaned up for chord playing, etc. I use the octron to acheive a very synth-like lead tone that defies logic for a string instrument. Very good tones. I hope someone can respond about the POG for you, but I really enjoy the Octron and it will hang with the loud ass group I play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cubistguitar Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have got the feel of the tracking of the lower octaves in the Octron, but there are minor tracking with any down octave. It is a different gtr with the Octron, but this is a good thing if you find the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bob, just bob Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have a micro pog and I haven't noticed any tracking issues (except when the lower octave is approaching inaudible when used with bass....). If you want to do chords, then the micro pog (or one of its bigger brothers) is what you are looking for. You are going to get some artifacts if you use an octron or other analog octave pedal for chords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bt2513 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 So: Octron = Single note, vintage Micro POG = better definition for chords, more modern sounding ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bieke Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have the Octron I and the POGthe Octron is analog, the POG is digitalhence, the Octron sounds warmer, the POG can sound very processed and artificialboth are totally different effectsthe Octron is a dirt pedal, octave up/down and it can handle chords when set dirty, no glitches, tracks well, can create a nice feedback if necessarythe POG is a polyharmonic octaver, with 2octaves up or down, it can sound dirty, but the distortion sounds very sterile and very noisy, effect tracks very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gtrwiz Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 the Octron is a dirt pedal, octave up/down and it can handle chords when set dirty, no glitches, tracks well, can create a nice feedback if necessary that's the first time I've heard someone say the octron can handle chords! Clips?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cow4prez Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 it's not for chords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teahead Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 I've had Octron 1 & 2, also had a big POG and currently own a Micro Pog, yeah, I'm a slut. Biggest difference between Octron and wee Pog is the ability to handle chords. Octron's lower octave will glitch and freak out when you play more than one note, which can be used, but isn't musical to me. Pog on the other hand can handle any chords and doesn't freak out. Some pros and cons... Octron Pros Cleanish octave up, or an excellent Octavia style Hendrix type octave up.Huge, fat & warm octave down.Internal tone and gain trim pots.Minimal (zero) latency.Excellent tracking.True Bypass, takes batteries, runs at reasonable mA levels and is capable of taking -9-30 odd volts from a psu.Can boost direct volume.Octaves sound great individually and blended.Designed and backed up by one of the best guys in the business. Wee Pog Pros Ability to handle any chords.Ability to handle any chords.Ability to handle any chords.You get the idea? Excellent tracking.Blend the octaves just right and it's Ray Manzarek in a box. Octron Cons Inability to handle chords.Inability to handle chords.Inability to handle chords.Sound familiar? Wee Pog Cons Noticeable latency on the octaves, almost feels like reverb or something.Buffered bypass, {censored}s with dirt pedals that may follow it in the chain.Requires -9vdc and 200mA of juice. No batteries.Synthetic edge to the octave sounds, individually they aren't a patch on the Octron's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bt2513 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 ^ wow, that's excellent feedback. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cubistguitar Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 that's the first time I've heard someone say the octron can handle chords! Clips?!?! I think he is referring to the upper octave which is basically chord friendly. That is the dirty part of the unit(fuzz) and the clean lower octave has what amounts to the best tracking and and best sounding lower octave that comes by this method. Still the chord ability is kinda shot, but then again it is fat enough that a chord is really overkill once the darn thing is active.It is synth engine for your single note playing. I know the Micro Pog is a real orchestral type sound(very beautiful and strange), but the tracking and timing issues are a complete disaster for my style. I like to feel I am in control and not the efx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bt2513 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 How is the Micro POG at Hendrix style octavia sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members m_Calavera Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 godamn you guys i was getting an octave multiplexer but now i need an octron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teahead Posted July 26, 2008 Members Share Posted July 26, 2008 How is the Micro POG at Hendrix style octavia sounds? Forget about it, not remotely possible with the Micro Pog. Even if you stack it with a nice fuzz, it will not approach the ring mod like, harmonic content of the Octavia style upper octave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bob, just bob Posted July 27, 2008 Members Share Posted July 27, 2008 ^ while I agree that it won't sound like an octavia, you can still get an octave fuzz sound if you run the pog with a fuzz pedal. If you are looking for vintage style tones though, I don't think you would be happy with the micro pog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bt2513 Posted July 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 27, 2008 I'm really looking for both. I love the Hendrix sound but don't particularly care for one-trick-ponies. I'm a bit of a tweaker. However, if I drop the cash on a Micro POG, I would feel like an idiot if I couldn't produce something reasonably close to these tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bob, just bob Posted July 27, 2008 Members Share Posted July 27, 2008 I suppose it depends on how you define "reasonably close". As mentioned, a pog won't get you a ring mod type sound - which, to me, is as good as it is bad. But seeing as it is an octave pedal, if you were to run it with a fuzz pedal, you would indeed have an octave fuzz. (I do enjoy running the micro pog into a big muff...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cow4prez Posted July 27, 2008 Members Share Posted July 27, 2008 simple answer -- play lead a lot --> go octronplay chords a lot --> go pog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 simple answer --play lead a lot --> go octronplay chords a lot --> go pog How does the Octron stack w/ other fuzzes? Is it total overkill to run it in front of a fuzz pedal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tape Posted October 2, 2008 Members Share Posted October 2, 2008 I havent noticed any tracking issues with the micro POG either. and I play all sorts of sounds through it (not just guitar)... I'm a little confused.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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