Members Superace25 Posted September 15, 2007 Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0MzfdJdNJc An interesting demonstration of the power of sampling and looping inside Ableton Live. Created by Tony Miracle of Venus Hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stikygum Posted September 15, 2007 Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 Ah, the power of sampling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 15, 2007 Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 cool... I think is a great example of how minimal gear helps to be more creative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bibendum Posted September 15, 2007 Members Share Posted September 15, 2007 That was really cool. So he was using Live to spread that guitar note to different pitches? Does it automatically do that, do you have to tell the program what note it is? Any other programs that will do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Theres a basic sampler function in Live.. allows you to play notes from a MIDI keyboard based on a single sample... really useful Never investigated the altering of start points though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Enigmatic Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Wow! This is really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Very interesting, and creative too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Way cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cram1960 Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 I feel so inadequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BonsoWonderDog Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Very nice except for that second highest sound.......that gave me a headache. On another note.....why are comments disabled on some videos? Is it the user or YouTube that disables it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 You can set that up when you publish a video on Youtube... What's that control surface he's using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Superace25 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 What's that control surface he's using? M-audio Oxygen 8, of course! ... I managed to read the name on the fader bank you're referring to. It's a Regelwerk, produced by Doepher in Germany. Looks like it combines the features of a fader bank with an analogue step sequencer. It has CV and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Allerian Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Someone has to say this... there was nothing remarkable about this process and the "track" was pretty ordinary. Delay and moving startpoints? "Hey, I have sampler! omgwtfbbq!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 "Ladies and Gentlemen..." "I give you the obligatory negative comment in a positive thread... " Well at least it wasn't Umbra... Someone has to say this... there was nothing remarkable about this process and the "track" was pretty ordinary. Delay and moving startpoints? "Hey, I have sampler! omgwtfbbq!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Allerian Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Orange, instead of the literal finger-point, were you impressed, encouraged, or otherwise inspired by the video? You're the one after all who called it what it is, "a basic sampler function". Zoom back ten years and it would have amazed me a little more than it does in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Well I was only jesting really, but yes I was kinda impressed.. mainly because its a reminder that you don't need that much gear to create music... Roomfulls of gear do seem to stifle the process to extent, yet a remote keyboard hooked up to live with the right mappings does allow a certain focus... btw I didn't realise you could change start points in samples dynamically on samplers from the past (I confess the only sampler I owned was a W30 back in 1988).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Allerian Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yeah, I can't slight the guy for doing his thing - heck, that process is the stock and trade of the Machinedrum UW. I'll also fall back to saying that I have no idea what the capabilities of samplers have been over time, so if moving start and end points is a newer idea, then I'm glad to be here in the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Someone has to say this... there was nothing remarkable about this process and the "track" was pretty ordinary. Delay and moving startpoints? "Hey, I have sampler! omgwtfbbq!!" Yeh - agree - but I dont think that was realy the point - more to illustrate sampling and hacking around in live? For sample start/loop time manipulation in real time - the freebie "Simpler" that ships with Live seems to be much better than the hugely expensive "Sampler" plugin. The only thing that annoys me is I havnt find a sampler yet (other than the machine drum) that lets you easily real manipulate the start and end times in quantised time. Just a huge shame the sampling on the MD is very lofi/grainy - ie 12 bit which kind of kills it for alot of what I want to mangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 What I can't understand about Ableton is that they have a sampler... and they also have algorithms for pitch shifting without changing the length of the sample... so why don't they combine them together for a potential VSynth-like plug in? Imagine samples that could be played from a keyboard in sync... without speeding up or slowing down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cloacal-X Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Nice - very basic, but elegant. Yeah, not that exciting from a technical standpoint, but I think that showing enough restraint not to tear the sample into oblivion, just altering it enough to fit each part, was the real trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 An interesting demonstration of the power of sampling and looping inside Ableton Live. Created by Tony Miracle of Venus Hum. Hi, Where have you been for the past 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lewey Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 So he put three annoying shitty audio tracks together: one with normal pitch, one with lowered, one with high. Amazing. Only a true genius could come up with such a revolutionary idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Damn.. I have the feeling we've been had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Superace25 Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Hi, Where have you been for the past 10 years? mmm that would be middle school, high school, and university. I haven't done a lot of work with sample-based music, so I enjoyed seeing a basic video about it (as it seems a few other users have). I typically get my sounds through preset-tweaking on romplers or building them on a VA, so this is rather new to me. I'm sure it's quite basic to someone who's been around long enough to have learned on a Fairlight Actually, one could probably use this as an example of advanced technology getting in the way of inspring people to work with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Superace25 Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Yeh - agree - but I dont think that was realy the point - more to illustrate sampling and hacking around in live? As for why he made the video, I think it's just a fan relations thing than anything else. The band is a synth pop group, and I bet a lot of their fans just say "hey look, he has a computer up there!!" and have no idea what's going on. So it's a nice little vid to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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